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		<title>Virgin Atlantic Sucks &#8212; The Sad Decline Of A Good Brand</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Branson, where are you? Do you even care about the mess your formerly good airline, Virgin Atlantic, has become. Are you so content praise from the Virgin America fanboys that what happens on your flagship carrier matters not, anymore? I guess they&#8217;ll learn, as things degrade over there as well. Here&#8217;s a little rant [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Richard Branson, where are you? Do you even care about the mess your formerly  good airline, <a href="http://virginatlantic.com/">Virgin Atlantic</a>, has  become. Are you so content praise from the <a href="http://www.virginamerica.com/">Virgin America</a> fanboys that what  happens on your flagship carrier matters not, anymore? I guess they&#8217;ll learn, as  things degrade over there as well. Here&#8217;s a little rant from one of your gold  card members. You know &#8212; the folks you supposedly want to take care of. I ain&#8217;t  been feeling so taken care of, which makes me fear even more for what&#8217;s going on  with the non-gold members.</p>
<p>I loved Virgin. Remember, way back in 2006 I <a href="../../060330-170343.html">even wrote</a> about how I&#8217;d pay  more to fly with Virgin because:</p>
<blockquote><p>Virgin also makes me happy since they seem honestly happy to see me, and    this is even in the days when I was flying economy as a regular non-gold    passenger. BA&#8217;s staff feels like they hate working there, and that attitude    shows.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Ah, the good old days. Since that time, it&#8217;s like you&#8217;ve conspired to turn me  away. <a href="../../060718-134026.html">I still find it difficult</a> to use my many frequent flyer miles and seriously begin to wonder if I&#8217;ll reach  the 2 million miles figure needed to do one of your suborbital flights. No doubt  if I do, I&#8217;ll be told that there&#8217;s only availability for one day in the next 20  years. Enough. Free up some seats. And stop giving me companion tickets that are  useless, where I have to buy a ticket as such an absurdly high price that it&#8217;s  actually cheaper to buy two tickets rather than take &#8220;advantage&#8221; of the free  companion ticket offer.</p>
<p>Have customer service people that can actually do things. My last flight from  California, I paid good money &#8212; lots of good money &#8212; to do upper class on the  way back. You know, so I could work and sleep. But it turned out my seat table  didn&#8217;t work. That meant eating dinner in my lap, then working on my laptop in my  lap. Hey, I know it&#8217;s a laptop &#8212; but if you promise tables, I should get one.  And if I don&#8217;t, I want a little something more than a small number of miles to  make up for the problem. Comp the damn ticket or give me many more miles closer  to the cost to the ticket. They cost you nothing, and at least I&#8217;ll feel like  you really care. Plus, you know, you didn&#8217;t deliver what you should have.</p>
<p>I greatly enjoyed my last flight to New York. I&#8217;d bought a ticket; my wife  was using miles (yes, a rare occasion when there was availability). We arrive at  the ticket counter, and we don&#8217;t have seats together. I mean, the tickets were  booked at the same time. HOW HARD IS IT? Customer service sent me a note  afterward apologizing and saying that I might request adjoining seats in the  future. But it also notes that these are guaranteed.</p>
<p>Duh. I could have told them that. I&#8217;ve routinely arrived at your counter with  the whole family, all of whom had tickets booked at the same time, paid in the  same way, only to discover you&#8217;ve put all four of us in different places. Are  you insane? Is it just that you like to make the check-in people do their merry  little endless typing?</p>
<p>As this went on with my last trip, I asked if we could just upgrade from  premium economy to upper class. I had plenty of miles. Plus, you and I both know  Virgin&#8217;s dirty little secret. You routinely oversell premium economy and you  bump all the gold card holders up. This should have been no problem to do.</p>
<p>Well, it was. My wife could be upgraded since her ticket was already on  miles. But me, with an actual paid-for ticket? I could only upgrade if I wanted  to pay $2,000 more. I thought that was a bit pricey so said no.</p>
<p>Off we went to the gate, where Virgin&#8217;s idea of &#8220;priority boarding&#8221; means  that premium economy and upper class passengers are actively encouraged to shove  through the existing line of economy ticket holders. You&#8217;ve been doing this for  more than two years. It&#8217;s rude. It&#8217;s uncomfortable, and I won&#8217;t do it. So one of  the perks of my ticket is useless. Open up another damn line!</p>
<p>More fun at the gate. Bing! My ticket sets off an alarm. Oh look, I&#8217;ve been  upgraded. You know, bumped from premium economy to upper class exactly as I knew  would happen &#8212; what was apparently impossible to do at the check-in gate. But  my wife&#8217;s not bumped, and now it&#8217;s too late to upgrade her with miles as it was  before. Oh well, see you dear, I&#8217;ll just be lounging around in upper class and  will check in from time to time.</p>
<p>Yeah, I gave up my ticket. Kind of funny, when I asked the guy in the aisle  seat next to her that I wanted if I could trade, before I could even get the  words out of my mouth, he said &#8220;No!&#8221; I replied I was sorry, I just thought he  might want to take my upper class seat. Funny how that changed his attitude.</p>
<p>I know, I&#8217;m a baby. I&#8217;m whining about a bunch of silly sounding things. But I  fly with you a lot. I&#8217;ve deliberately chosen you over other airlines. And you&#8217;re  letting me down. Your staff more and more seems to think the airline is there as  a private club for them, rather than attending to your passengers. That&#8217;s  improved a bit in the past few months, but there&#8217;s still that attitude. The  Heathrow lounge &#8212; well, you know that&#8217;s to die for. But I can get my haircut  and my shoes shined elsewhere.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a little checklist of things I&#8217;d like to see happen:</p>
<ul>
<li>Separate boarding lines for priority passengers, guaranteed</li>
<li>Seat passengers booked at the same time together, guaranteed</li>
<li>Never make me stand at a check-in desk while someone types for 20 minutes.    I know, I know &#8212; it&#8217;s not just a Virgin thing, but c&#8217;mon, along with solving    global warming, can&#8217;t we get drag-and-drop reservation systems?</li>
<li>Make it easier to use mileage awards &#8212; like open up more seats to at    least match what BA offers</li>
<li>Companion ticket offers should be good for any class of ticket. Otherwise,    they&#8217;re just a con</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t make me have to ask four times for a Diet Coke. It&#8217;s like routine.    We don&#8217;t all drink wine with dinner. But kudos on finally serving Diet Coke on    occasion rather than that awful Virgin Cola</li>
<li>When something goes wrong, empower your staff to provide a fix rather than    an excuse. I&#8217;m not asking for unreasonable things. But when we all know there    are going to be bumps, just let them do it.</li>
</ul>
<p>Oh, and the next time you lose my snowboard, I don&#8217;t know &#8212; act like you&#8217;re  really sorry about it and maybe make it up in some way. But it was nice to get  it back after three days, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>Fleeing From Virgin&#8217;s Flying Club</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/fleeing-from-virgins-flying-club-289</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 04:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been an unabashed Virgin fan, but the airline has amazingly &#8211; unbelievably &#8212; now driven me closer to British Airways. The hated BA, which I have to say, looks much better as I measure up the frequent flyer programs. Virgin&#8217;s Not So Generous Frequent Flyer Program is my post from last year, when I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I&#8217;ve been an unabashed Virgin fan, but the airline has amazingly &#8211;<br />
unbelievably &#8212; now driven me closer to British Airways. The hated BA, which I<br />
have to say, looks much better as I measure up the frequent flyer programs.</p>
<p><a href="http://daggle.com/060718-134026.html">Virgin&#8217;s Not So Generous<br />
Frequent Flyer Program</a> is my post from last year, when I looked at how hard<br />
it was for me to use my Virgin miles for anything. I&#8217;ve just now tried to book<br />
tickets for a family trip in October. I have four companion award tickets to<br />
use, plus 350,000 miles. Can I splurge on the big seats to fly over? Nope. Can&#8217;t<br />
use the companion tickets, and it&#8217;s strictly only economy left for a range of<br />
dates I checked.</p>
<p>&quot;It&#8217;s the school holidays,&quot; is the usual Virgin refrain. Duh. Of course it<br />
is, but the bigger problem is you don&#8217;t release enough seats. Meanwhile, I&#8217;ve<br />
been flying BA more recently, as they&#8217;ve either had exceptionally better prices<br />
than Virgin or fly into places Virgin doesn&#8217;t go. I&#8217;ve built up some miles,<br />
enough to see what BA might have to offer on the family trip. Big seats? No<br />
problem.</p>
<p>I really, really enjoy Virgin. I&#8217;ve paid more to fly them in the past. But<br />
I&#8217;m tired of accumulating useless miles. It&#8217;s nice to be a gold member, and the<br />
Virgin lounge at Heathrow has no match to what I&#8217;ve seen elsewhere. But I think<br />
I&#8217;ll build up my status on BA instead. What a change for someone who<br />
<a href="http://daggle.com/flying.html">has hated</a> them so much in the past.<br />
And what a change in particular because of problems with something that&#8217;s<br />
supposed to keep my loyal, a useless loyalty program.</p>
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		<title>BA To Face Strike</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[British Airways &#8212; you know, the airline I generally love to hate &#8211; may face a strike action. Apparently it will be the first official strike in like 10 years. Good job BA workers. I was about to book a flight on BA today, then another one later this week and a third after that. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>British Airways &#8212; you know, the airline<br />
<a href="http://daggle.com/flying.html">I generally love to hate</a> &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9077-2549160,00.html">may<br />
face</a> a strike action. Apparently it will be the first official strike in<br />
like 10 years. Good job BA workers. I was about to book a flight on BA today,<br />
then another one later this week and a third after that. Now I&#8217;ll seek<br />
alternatives.</p>
<p>BA&#8217;s such a bad airline usually, with delays, lost luggage (they&#8217;re <a href="http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=416134&#038;in_page_id=2">still </a><br />
finding stuff lost in last December&#8217;s havoc), that entire caterer&#8217;s strike that<br />
meant like no or little food for passengers. Then I think there&#8217;s been like two<br />
or three unofficial walkouts over the past few years. All I know BA as an<br />
airline just gets more and more undependable. And the staff already generally<br />
sucks. They don&#8217;t seem to like working for BA. They don&#8217;t seem to like the<br />
passengers that pay their wages. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like either side in this, and I doubt either of them are going to<br />
gain anything from it. After everything BA has been through, a strike is just<br />
going to cost the airline further loyalty losses. Maybe that will freak out<br />
management enough to cave. I doubt it. They&#8217;re both going to lose in this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just glad Virgin is starting to fly direct to Chicago now. I continue to<br />
seek BA alternatives where I can, starting today.</p>
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		<title>Radioactive British Airways Flights</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/radioactive-british-airways-flights-246</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 05:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m not sure if the news has jumped over the pond about the radiation found on at least three British Airways planes, all part of murder of former KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko. I gather those with the radioactive material used to poison Litvinenko flew on some BA jets, leaving traces of the material on those [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I&#8217;m not sure if the news has jumped over the pond about the radiation found<br />
on at least three British Airways planes, all part of murder of former KGB agent<br />
Alexander Litvinenko. I gather those with the radioactive material used to<br />
poison Litvinenko flew on some BA jets, leaving traces of the material on those<br />
jets.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t look to be a public health worry. But you have to wonder if the<br />
radiation can be found on the jets, isn&#8217;t that something the security scans<br />
protecting us at the airports also should have picked up?</p>
<p>Perhaps the new <a href="http://daggle.com/061124-160159.html">plastic bag<br />
requirements</a> helped shield the radiation from being detected. It would be<br />
funny if it didn&#8217;t make a mockery of the screening process.</p>
<p>More on the story from This Is London<br />
<a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23376413-details/'Spy'%20radiation%20alert%20for%2033,000%20BA%20passengers/article.do"><br />
here</a>. Over at BA, they sent me (and other customers) and email about it:</p>
<p><span id="more-246"></span></p>
<blockquote>
<p>As a valued customer I am writing to give you the latest information<br />
regarding the forensic examination of three of our Boeing 767 aircraft. </p>
<p>You may be aware that these three aircraft were identified by the UK<br />
government as part of the police investigation into the death of Alexander<br />
Litvinenko. </p>
<p>Two of the three aircraft have been forensically tested at London Heathrow.<br />
The third aircraft will return to London Heathrow today where it will undergo<br />
testing over the weekend. </p>
<p>The initial results of the forensic tests on the two aircraft at London<br />
Heathrow showed very low traces of a radioactive substance onboard. Since then<br />
the Health Protection Agency (HPA) said that one of these aircraft does not<br />
pose a risk to the health of the people in it and that it does not believe<br />
overall that passengers on this aircraft were at risk over the past month.<br />
Monitoring is continuing on the second aircraft. </p>
<p>We have been advised that this investigation is confined solely to these<br />
three B767 aircraft and no other British Airways aircraft are involved. </p>
<p>We hope to return the two aircraft currently at London Heathrow to service<br />
as soon as possible. </p>
<p>Details of the flights operated by the three aircraft at the centre of the<br />
investigation are available on our website, http://www.ba.com. We have also<br />
identified on the website the 72 flights that have been given the all clear.
</p>
<p>If you were on one of these flights and wish to receive further advice you<br />
are advised to telephone NHS Direct on 0845 4647. Only customers who have<br />
travelled on the remaining specified flights should telephone NHS Direct.<br />
Non-UK customers are advised to contact their doctor. </p>
<p>The British Airways helpline remains open on 0845 6040171 and + 44 (0) 191<br />
211 3690 for international calls. </p>
<p>We wish to reassure you our operation is planned to continue to run<br />
normally and any further news of the government investigation will be posted<br />
on our website.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Heading over to BA, I find this<br />
<a href="https://lfn.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/lfn.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2432&#038;p_topview=1"><br />
page</a> that doesn&#8217;t really explain the situation as to how the radiation got<br />
on the flights. It assumes I&#8217;m all up to speed about this. But it does<br />
<a href="https://lfn.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/lfn.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2436&#038;p_sid=cLiLK3oi&#038;p_lva=2432"><br />
list</a> the flights made by one plane identified as having radiation on it (not<br />
that I was that worried, but still, phew, I&#8217;m clear). That also shows flights<br />
that a second plane made that is being examined.</p>
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		<title>Plastic Bags &amp; Airport Security</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 23:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I spent last week in Las Vegas sadly missing the lip balm I had to give up when I went through security, since I neglected to put it within the now required plastic baggie. The entire process seems absurd, but at least I now have plenty of bags after purchasing some and also getting one [...]]]></description>
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<img src="http://static.flickr.com/118/304991580_a41f47a81c_t.jpg" width="98" height="100" alt="BA's Baggie" align="left" border="0" hspace="10" vspace="3" /></a></p>
<p>I spent last week in Las Vegas sadly missing the lip balm I had to give up<br />
when I went through security, since I neglected to put it within the now<br />
required plastic baggie. The entire process seems absurd, but at least I now<br />
have plenty of bags after purchasing some and also getting one mailed to me<br />
today by British Airways.</p>
<p>There was much discussion of the new rules among those I talked with out at<br />
Pubcon. Everyone seemed to have a different story. Mine was being mildly annoyed<br />
that my lip balm couldn&#8217;t just go in one of those plastic bins without being in<br />
a bag. What exactly did putting the balm into a bag for scanning do that made it<br />
more acceptable?</p>
<p><span id="more-239"></span></p>
<p>To be clear, I couldn&#8217;t drop the balm on its own in a plastic bin. However,<br />
if it was security encased within a clear plastic bag, then dropped into the<br />
bin, that was acceptable.</p>
<p>My friend found her plastic bag was verboten because it used an actual zipper<br />
top, rather than a plastic zip. Another said she was told by security that the<br />
bag had to be <a href="http://www.ziploc.com/">Ziploc</a> brand. This produced<br />
many chuckles that Johnson, which makes Ziploc, must have some secret deal going with<br />
the government. &quot;How we gonna get sales up? I know, let&#8217;s start a security scare<br />
that only Ziploc bags can solve.&quot;</p>
<p>Another friend had a plastic bag, but it was an ordinary sandwich bag that<br />
couldn&#8217;t be resealed. That wasn&#8217;t acceptable. Why? Security told her she&#8217;s not<br />
really supposed to open it after going through. That was clearly mistaken, but<br />
the idea that the bag needs to be resalable makes no real sense.</p>
<p>In fact, the purpose of the bags themselves remain a mystery. I want to know<br />
exactly how the new rules are stopping potential terrorist activities, but I&#8217;m<br />
afraid that the response would be that if I was told, that might help the<br />
terrorists.</p>
<p>Over at the US TSA site, I was bemused<br />
<a href="http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/9-25_updated_passenger_guidance.shtm"><br />
to read</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Please keep in mind that these rules were developed after extensive<br />
research and understanding of current threats. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Honestly, I want to see the lab where the testing happened, where by placing<br />
these items within a plastic bag, they were rendered harmless.</p>
<p>Another friend turned up all smug that he&#8217;d been to the TSA site and was all<br />
hip to <a href="http://www.tsa.gov/311/311-holiday.shtm">3-1-1</a>. That&#8217;s the<br />
TSA trying to communicate that you can have:</p>
<ul>
<li>Liquidy stuff in containers that are <b>3</b> ounces or less</li>
<li>Items in <b>1 </b>quart bags</li>
<li><b>1</b> bag per person</li>
</ul>
<p>If you don&#8217;t deal in ounces and quarts, then I guess it&#8217;s 100-20-1, for 100ml<br />
containers in a 20x20cm bag, one bag per person.</p>
<p>Many of us wondered why the TSA doesn&#8217;t provide bags right there at screening<br />
points that can be<br />
used. You aren&#8217;t required to keep this stuff in the bag after going through<br />
security. The only purpose to the bag, says the TSA in its<br />
<a href="http://www.tsa.gov/press/where_we_stand/liquids_refined.shtm">Why The<br />
Bag</a> page, is:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Consolidating the bottles into one bag and X-raying separately enables<br />
security officers to examine the declared items. By reducing clutter in the<br />
carry-on bag, security officers can more easily find prohibited items within<br />
the bag.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Fine &#8212; make bags available for the people who might suggest, instead of the<br />
incredible waste that continues to go on where all this stuff is dumped. Once<br />
the bag is used for screening, let people leave it for the next person to use.<br />
If by chance you get a bag flagged as possibly having explosive contents, then<br />
don&#8217;t reuse that bag.</p>
<p>Providing bags might also gain more support for separation of these items.<br />
Several people I know simply left lip balms or other liquid-like items in their<br />
bags either on purpose or accidentally, and these weren&#8217;t caught. Those doing it<br />
on purpose might have complied if bags had been offered, which ultimately helps<br />
the TSA. Those who got stuff through accidentally further highlight that these<br />
rules seem more about making us feel safer rather than actually making us safer.</p>
<p>Then again, who feels that safe when after getting through security, I was<br />
later allowed to board my aircraft without showing any picture ID. Just a<br />
boarding pass was enough. I know that supposedly I was in a &quot;secure&quot; area and<br />
checked once getting through security, but it still felt odd that no one did a<br />
further check that the person who was supposed to be getting on the plane<br />
actually was that person.</p>
<p>One of my friends, wanting to keep her lip gloss, went back from security and<br />
found a gift shop selling bags for 25 cents. Matt Cutts made me chuckle when he<br />
saved his toothpaste<br />
<a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/2006-pubcon-in-vegas-getting-there-and-back/"><br />
by finding a baggie</a> in his luggage at the last minute. He even managed to<br />
get a 7  tube through, rather than the 3<br />
ounces you&#8217;re supposedly limited to per container.</p>
<p>Actually, it turns out the TSA agent wasn&#8217;t bending the rules for Matt. If you<br />
do have something bigger than three ounces by mistake, the guidelines say:</p>
<ol>
<li>Separate these items from the liquids, gels, and aerosols in your<br />
quart-size and zip-top bag.</li>
<li>Declare you have the items to one of our Security Officers at the security<br />
checkpoint.</li>
<li>Present these items for additional inspection once reaching the X-ray.<br />
These items are subject to additional screening.</li>
</ol>
<p>Of course, what the guidelines say and what the TSA actually does are two<br />
different things. Back during that brief time when the remove your shoes rule<br />
was relaxed, I actually tried going through with them on. Naturally, I got<br />
stopped. I said, as politely and meekly and in as non-terrorizing manner as I<br />
could that I read on the TSA site that morning that shoe removal was voluntary.</p>
<p>The TSA guy agreed it was. Then he said he also had discretion to stop anyone<br />
for further screening. So I could wear my shoes and have a pretty good chance he<br />
might decide to stop me for a further look afterward, I was told. </p>
<p>I removed my shoes.</p>
<p>By the way, I now have the perfect shoes that I&#8217;ll wear on my next trip to<br />
<a href="http://www.searchenginestrategies.com/sew/chicago06/">SES Chicago</a><br />
in a week, just for the airport. These are some Vans slip-ons I was trilled to<br />
find out in Las Vegas:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/304984157/" title="Photo Sharing"><br />
<img src="http://static.flickr.com/105/304984157_cd025c0063.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Patriotic Vans" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>See, I&#8217;m no threat! Should you need a pair, you&#8217;ll find there<br />
<a href="http://shop.vans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10101_302152_-1"><br />
here</a> at the Vans online store.</p>
<p>Back to baggies, on my return home to the UK, I was fully equipped. During my<br />
regular Target run for the usual essentials (some DVDs, pack of Oreos, Goldfish<br />
crackers, a Zune), I grabbed a pack of baggies. Yes, quart-sized. Yes, I even<br />
went for Ziploc brand.</p>
<p>For the record, none of the brands I looked at said &quot;Meets TSA requirements&quot;<br />
on the boxes. That&#8217;s inevitably going to happen. I give it a month to three<br />
months before we see that on boxes all resealable bags, as they discover an<br />
entire new market.</p>
<p>The bag worked a charm. I got my lip balm, a deodorant stick and some<br />
toothpaste through just fine. I&#8217;ve also put about five extra in my backpack, so that I<br />
can distribute them to poor lost souls without. Heck, I&#8217;m tempted to carry an<br />
entire box around to leave behind at security checkpoints for others to use.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/304991580/" title="Photo Sharing"><br />
<img src="http://static.flickr.com/118/304991580_a41f47a81c_m.jpg" width="235" height="240" alt="BA's Baggie" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>In the mail today, what kicked off this post was yet another bag. This came<br />
to me from British Airways, which I thought was pretty nice. I don&#8217;t know if<br />
every frequent flyer with them gets one or only certainly levels (I&#8217;m in the<br />
middle as a silver member). But the bag contained a flyer explaining all the<br />
rules.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, while this baggie might work to get my stuff out of the UK, it<br />
technically won&#8217;t meet the US rules to get stuff back out of the US. The UK<br />
<a href="http://www.baa.co.uk/portal/controller/dispatcher.jsp?CiID=5eae398e1889e010VgnVCM10000036821c0a____&#038;ChID=ac4597dc2eb12010VgnVCM100000147e120a____&#038;Ct=B2C_CT_PRESS_RELEASE&#038;CtID=a22889d8759a0010VgnVCM200000357e120a____&#038;Ch=All+Press+Releases&#038;ChPath=Home%5ECorporate%5EAll+Press+Releases&#038;ChIDPath=caf397dc2eb12010VgnVCM100000147e120a____^2292ea0bb0022010VgnVCM100000147e120a____^ac4597dc2eb12010VgnVCM100000147e120a____"><br />
allows</a> 8 inch by 8 inch bags. The US<br />
<a href="http://www.tsa.gov/311/311-carry-ons.shtm">allows</a> &quot;quart&quot; bags,<br />
where the sizing is 8 inch by 7.5 inch. I doubt the extra 0.5 inch will be a<br />
problem, but sheesh &#8212; how about some consistency.</p>
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		<title>BA Keeps On Flying After Engine Flameout</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/ba-keeps-on-flying-after-engine-flameout-204</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m no fan of British Airways, but this story (paid sub. required) from the Wall Street Journal gives me another reason to think again before doing a BA flight. Last year, after an engine flamed out minutes after takeoff from Los Angeles, the pilots decided to &#34;get as far as we can&#34; with the remaining [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I&#8217;m <a href="http://daggle.com/060330-170343.html">no fan</a> of British<br />
Airways, but <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115896261643871721.html"><br />
this</a> story (paid sub. required) from the Wall Street Journal gives me<br />
another reason to think again before doing a BA flight. Last year, after an<br />
engine flamed out minutes after takeoff from Los Angeles, the pilots decided to<br />
&quot;get as far as we can&quot; with the remaining three engines on a trans-Atlantic<br />
flight to London. They made it to Manchester, with an emergency landing over<br />
fears of running out of fuel.</p>
<p><span id="more-204"></span></p>
<p>LAX&#8217;s air traffic controllers saw the flame-out when the plane was only 300<br />
feet in the air and prepared to guide it back. Was the decision prompted by<br />
costs? The Wall Street Journal covers out $30,000 in fuel would have been<br />
dumped, plus $275,000 owed in compensation under the EU&#8217;s delayed flight rules.</p>
<p>BA denies costs were a factor. BA says continuing on posed &quot;no evidence&quot; of a<br />
significant increase in risk. Of course not &#8212; I mean if it did, you&#8217;d think<br />
they would have had to do an emergency landing some place &#8212; oh, yeah, they did.</p>
<p>The story gets into a fight between the US FAA and the UK&#8217;s Civil Aviation<br />
Authority. The FAA wanted to fine BA $25,000, despite a UK regulatory ruling<br />
that seemed to find things were OK. The FAA then quietly dropped its attempt,<br />
after the CAA said it would push for changes to BA&#8217;s procedures when flying in<br />
US airspace. </p>
<p>The story goes on to say the UK&#8217;s Air Accident Investigation Branch found BA<br />
has flown 747s to long-haul destinations 15 times since April 2001. Three other<br />
airlines polled said they have policies similar to BAs; two require the plane to<br />
land, if it has not reached cruising altitude and one had no policy. The other<br />
airlines aren&#8217;t named in the article.</p>
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		<title>Virgin&#8217;s Not So Generous Frequent Flyer Program</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/virgins-not-so-generous-frequent-flyer-program-156</link>
		<comments>http://daggle.com/virgins-not-so-generous-frequent-flyer-program-156#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I hate British Airways, I love Virgin Atlantic for some of the reasons I&#8217;ve explained here. The only thing that really spoils my VA love is the insanity if you want to use your frequent flyer miles or other perks they offer you. Decided to treat yourself by upgrading from Economy to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>As much as <a href="../../060714-152538.html">I hate British Airways</a>, I love  <a href="http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/">Virgin Atlantic</a> for some of the  reasons I&#8217;ve explained <a href="../../060330-170343.html">here</a>. The only thing  that really spoils my VA love is the insanity if you want to use your frequent  flyer miles or other perks they offer you.</p>
<p>Decided to treat yourself by upgrading from Economy to Premium Economy or  Upper Class? Make sure you aren&#8217;t trying to do it from the lowest fare level.  You can&#8217;t upgrade at all from some fare classes.</p>
<p>For example, I&#8217;m looking at a flight in February from London Heathrow to  Boston. Cost in Premium Economy? That&#8217;s £847 pounds. Now let&#8217;s say I want to  upgrade to Upper Class using miles on one or both legs of the trip. No can do.  As Virgin <a href="http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb/frequentflyer/spendmiles/companionsandupgrades.jsp"> tells you</a> in the small print, you can only upgrade from a full adult fare in  W, S, Y, B, L and M classes &#8212; whatever these are. Got your secret fare class  decoder ring handy?</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the lowest you can spend on a Premium Economy flight to  qualify to then do a mileage upgrade to Upper Class? That&#8217;s £1,147 &#8212; £300 more  for the ability to then spend miles to sit in the nice, big seats and sleep if  you want (the Wall Street Journal had a nice <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115310518091708380.html">article</a> yesterday on American trying to match seats on Virgin or BA. Believe me, fully  flat is not just a marketing ploy, if you&#8217;re really trying to sleep).</p>
<p>Frankly, if I&#8217;ve earned these miles on Virgin in large part because of my  loyalty to them, it sucks to be told certain tickets aren&#8217;t eligible for  upgrading. But the craziness doesn&#8217;t stop there.</p>
<p>Going on a trip with the family? How about using a companion ticket, where  you pay for one ticket and get the other free, all for spending miles. Sounds  great &#8212; but as above, you can only do it with tickets in certain fare classes. If  you wanted to do it for the Boston trip above, you&#8217;d still have to pay the  higher £1,147 fare to take someone with you.</p>
<p>I also get a companion ticket each year because I have a Virgin credit card.  It&#8217;s a nice pitch they give you &#8212; take a companion free on a trip. But again,  this only works if you buy a full fare ticket. In some cases, the amount you  spend to do this is more than just buying two tickets and not using the  companion reward all. True, you&#8217;ll be buying non-refundable, non-changeable  tickets. But still, the pitch of a free companion flight deserves a better  qualification.</p>
<p>Virgin&#8217;s doing this again right now. Virgin&#8217;s shifting its credit card from  MasterCard to American Express and trying to get us all to change over to Amex.  There are lots of reasons to do it, from the big mileage bonuses they&#8217;re handing  out as an introduction to the ability to earn two free economy-to-premium  economy upgrades per year.</p>
<p>Look at the pitch about the black card <a href="http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb/creditcard/blackcard/index.jsp"> here</a>.</p>
<blockquote>
<li><strong>It&#8217;s the fastest way to earn a complimentary companion reward flight</strong>*.<strong> </strong>Spend just £7,500 on the Virgin Atlantic Black Card each year and  you&#8217;ll get a complimentary round trip companion reward ticket the next time you  book a qualifying flight with Virgin Atlantic.</li>
<li><strong>It’s the only way to get a Premium Economy reward upgrade</strong>**.  Spend £5,000 on the Virgin Atlantic Black Card each year and you&#8217;ll get a round  trip Premium Economy reward upgrade flight the next time you book a qualifying  reward flight in Economy.</li>
</blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s always those asterisks that mess everything up. Let&#8217;s jump down to  those, and I&#8217;ll highlight the key part that&#8217;s buried:</p>
<blockquote><p>*Complimentary companion reward flight<br />
If your card purchases equal or exceed £7,500 in a year, you will receive a  complimentary companion reward flight the next time you book a qualifying flight  with Virgin Atlantic. Card purchases exclude cash transactions, payments by  credit card cheques and balance transfers. A year is defined by the 12 month  period starting from the date you opened your Virgin Atlantic Credit Card  account. MBNA will notify Virgin Atlantic of your eligibility within 30 days of  you becoming eligible. One complimentary companion reward round trip flight to  main cardmember only.</p>
<p>**Premium Economy reward upgrade<br />
Spend £5,000 on card purchases by the end of any year and you will receive a  Premium Economy reward upgrade the next time you redeem your Flying Club miles  for a qualifying Economy redemption flight with Virgin Atlantic. Plus, spend  another £5,000 in that year and earn another Premium Economy reward upgrade. The  main cardmember only can earn a maximum of two Premium Economy reward upgrades  per card account in any one year. Card purchases exclude cash transactions,  payments by credit card cheques and balance transfers. A year is defined by the  12 month period starting from the date you opened your Virgin Atlantic Credit  Card account. MBNA will notify Virgin Atlantic of your eligibility within 30  days of the end of the year if you are eligible.</p>
<p>Cardmembers must pay related taxes, fees and charges relating to the  complimentary reward flight and reward upgrade. These will vary according to the  qualifying destination, and are subject to change as a result of fluctuations in  taxes, airport levies and exchange rates. Flights and routes subject to  availability. Please note, <strong>discounted flights are not classed as qualifying  flights</strong>. Tickets and Premium Economy reward upgrades are valid for 12 months  from the date of issue. This offer may be withdrawn or amended at any time.  Flying Club Terms &amp; Conditions apply. You will not earn this incentive if you  have not provided MBNA with a valid Flying Club membership number at the point  you become eligible for a complimentary companion reward flight or Premium  Economy reward upgrade.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Got it? Discounted flights are not classed as qualifying flights. And what is  a discounted flight? That&#8217;s not defined, but I can assure you it won&#8217;t be the  lowest priced ticket you can find on the Virgin Atlantic web site.</p>
<p>Virgin also has another program called Miles Plus Money. The idea here is  that by spending a few miles, you can get a discounted fare. How discounted? Not  much. That Boston trip above? Miles Plus Money knocks it down by £180 to £667,  about 20 percent off.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not bad compared to some other fares I&#8217;ve seen in the past. Earlier  this year, I was booking a trip for a family member to New York. The regular  premium economy rate was £820, and Miles Plus Money knocked it down by only £80,  a 10 percent reduction.</p>
<p>Aside from all this, availability goes pretty fast. Book early, as far in  advance as you can, most especially if it falls anytime near a school holiday.  Only a relatively small number of seats are allocated for &#8220;reward&#8221; usage, and  this group of seats goes to anyone using mileage, miles plus money, companion  tickets and so on.</p>
<p>I wrote Virgin earlier this year about all these problems I find with their  Flying Club loyalty program. Here&#8217;s the response:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was concerned to read you&#8217;re experiencing difficulty when trying to redeem  miles for reward seats, and your comments have been noted.</p>
<p>If I may explain, the allocation of reward seats on flights is the  responsibility of our Reservations Control department. All reward flights are  subject to availability and capacity control; popular dates (i.e. weekends,  school and public holidays) will fill quickly and Virgin Atlantic reserves the  right to limit the number of seats available for rewards. Also, reward seats are  released sometimes up to 11 months prior to a flight departure and the  allocation can be used fairly quickly. We strongly advise to book as far in  advance as possible.</p>
<p>We try to ensure that the Miles Plus Money fares available to you as a Flying  Club member are amongst the most competitive in the marketplace. However, the  setting of fare levels is reflective of market conditions and we cannot  guarantee that this will always be the case. We recommend asking at the time of  booking for the lowest available fares.</p>
<p>The companion reward does require a qualifying full adult fare to be  purchased. I have to agree that for you the companion reward tickets are perhaps  not beneficial, though for members that are not paying for their travel  themselves and require a fully flexible ticket, they are popular (i.e. for a  business traveller who would like to take their partner).</p>
<p>With the exception of Miles Plus Money, all Flying Club reward seats are only  bookable in reward seat booking classes.</p>
<p>We are still very generous in terms and rewarding loyalty, and reward seats  are released on ALL flights. Whilst remaining sympathetic, it would not be  feasible for us to offer a greater number of reward seats on each flight.</p>
<p>As a valued Flying Club Gold member, we appreciate your feedback whether good  or bad as we continually look towards improving our product and service. Your  valuable comments have been logged and reported to the relevant Managers, in  order for them to review your suggestions and implement any changes they feel  are necessary to further develop our frequent flyer programme. However, I&#8217;m  unable to detail our plans for the future.</p>
<p>It is very much appreciated that you have also taken time out to express your  gratitude for the telephone service that we have provided.</p>
<p>Thank you for your candid approach. We look forward to welcoming you onboard  again soon.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I really do hope they make more mileage seats available and consider dropping  the entire requirement that you have to know what mystery classes qualify if you  want to do a mileage upgrade or use a companion ticket.</p>
<p>In the meantime, a few last tips, for those thinking about Virgin and  pondering the big seats.</p>
<ul>
<li>Premium Economy generally does not provide laptop power, which is sucky.    But the seats are big, comfortable, and the discounted non-refundable Premium    Economy fares are often good value for those who want more space to work.</li>
<li>A bonus to booking Premium Economy is that Virgin generally overbooks    seats in this area. And where do you go if they are overbooked? Usually into    Upper Class. There&#8217;s a slight chance you might get downgraded to Economy, but    I&#8217;ve only seen that happen once in my years of flying with them (and it wasn&#8217;t    to me). Premium Economy is an excellent way to get into Upper Class without    paying the expensive Upper Class price &#8212; and the odds increase you&#8217;ll    upgraded if you are a Silver or Gold card holder with Virgin.</li>
<li>If you don&#8217;t get an automatic upgrade, after the ticketing is done, then    ask about purchasing an upgrade. Often seats that they&#8217;ve held back for weeks    are released on the day you fly, and the ticket desks at the airport have far    more flexibility about letting you upgrade by paying a relatively small amount    or using miles. And yes, sometimes you can even do this from those tickets    that supposedly aren&#8217;t upgradeable.</li>
</ul>
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		<title>Hate BA: 2; Love BA: 1</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/hate-ba-2-love-ba-1-153</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just posted about the struggle to find my lost DS Lite left behind on a recent British Airways flight. That&#8217;s strike two with me recently for the airline, with strike one being my fun experience in Munich not being able to board an earlier flight. But in fairness, I&#8217;ve been meaning to write about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I just <a href="../../060714-151707.html">posted</a> about the  struggle to find my lost DS Lite left behind on a recent British Airways flight.  That&#8217;s strike two with me recently for the airline, with strike one being my fun <a href="../../060330-170343.html">experience</a> in Munich not  being able to board an earlier flight. But in fairness, I&#8217;ve been meaning to  write about another flight with them where BA came through with flying colors.</p>
<p>It was when I was coming back from our SES Toronto trip. I plunked down my  eticket information, then was shocked out of airline check in desk boredom when  I was told the flight I was booked on wasn&#8217;t going until the next day.</p>
<p>What?!!!</p>
<p>Turns out, the travel agent had accidentally booked me in on the wrong day.  I&#8217;d double-checked dates before booking literally about three times, but I  failed to do that crucial last check when the ticket was finally issued. It was  indeed for the next day.</p>
<p>I got shunted over to another desk, where the clerk told me changing it would  be hugely expensive. Then after a little typing, she handed me a ticket to get  me out that day &#8212; in fact, out on a flight earlier than I&#8217;d originally planned  (I&#8217;d gotten to the airport very early, so had plenty of time to make this).</p>
<p>So thank you, BA. It was totally a case where they didn&#8217;t have to do this,  though I suspect that perhaps the flight I was on the next day was overbooked.  That was the case with the original flight I thought I was getting on.</p>
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		<title>My Nintendo DS Lite Enters The British Airways Lost Property Hell</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coming back from Miami yesterday, I made the mistake of leaving my Nintendo DS Lite in the storage underneath my seat on British Airways, forgetting it when I left the plane. Since then, it&#8217;s been both an enlightening and frustrating experience to learn how poorly the company handles lost items. Before I&#8217;d even left the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Coming back from Miami yesterday, I made the mistake of leaving my Nintendo  DS Lite in the storage underneath my seat on British Airways, forgetting it when  I left the plane. Since then, it&#8217;s been both an enlightening and frustrating  experience to learn how poorly the company handles lost items.</p>
<p>Before I&#8217;d even left the airport, about 30 to 45 minutes after leaving the  plane, I realized I&#8217;d left the DS in its game case on the plane. I was getting  into my car outside the terminal, so I couldn&#8217;t dash into a BA counter for help.  Instead, I phoned the main BA number for advice and to see if someone could get  it off the aircraft.</p>
<p>I was given a number to call (it was 0208-745-7727, for others who might have  lost property at Heathrow). Unfortunately, the office wasn&#8217;t open (this was  about 7:45am). So I drove to the petrol station at the airport to fill my tank  and wait a bit, figuring that it was worthwhile to stay there a bit longer, in  case they could get my property quickly.</p>
<p>When someone answered, I quickly learned that BA doesn&#8217;t handle lost property  themselves. Instead, they contract this out to the Excess Baggage Company, which  also handles <a href="http://www.heathrowairport.com/portal/controller/dispatcher.jsp?CiID=9be59bab6c932010VgnVCM100000147e120a____&amp;ChID=ef5daaf1ae522010VgnVCM100000147e120a____&amp;Ct=B2C_CT_GENERAL&amp;CtID=448c6a4c7f1b0010VgnVCM200000357e120a____&amp;ChPath=Home%5ELHR%5EAirport+Informa"> lost property</a> for all of Heathrow. I was told there was no way they could go  onto the plane to check for my DS. Instead, I had to wait until after 11am, for  when they get a bulk delivery of everything that is found left on BA planes.</p>
<p>I waited until around 1pm and called back. Nope, nothing was found. I was  told to try again the next day, then to try again for seven days altogether. And  if it didn&#8217;t turn up, then it was probably stolen.</p>
<p>Great. I know security is all about keeping things off of airplanes, but  you&#8217;d think there were some procedures in place to log what comes off plus you&#8217;d  hope that items left behind weren&#8217;t going to be stolen by those servicing the  aircraft.</p>
<p>I decided to try BA again. I called the main number, then was routed over  this time to someone from the Aircraft Search department. Aircraft Search? Yes,  he explained to me that I should have been sent to this department when I called  originally. Had that happened, someone would have gone onto the plane and gotten  my DS off.</p>
<p>BA never mentioned this when I called originally, nor did Excess Baggage  mention this when I called them as instructed. That sucks, because it would have  greatly increased the odds of getting my DS back (along with its game case,  headphones and five games).</p>
<p>Next, I tried calling BA Customer Relations, to see if they could do anything  to speed up the search process and if there was going to be any compensation if  the DS had indeed turned out to be stolen, especially since I&#8217;d been incorrectly  routed on my call. After about 15 minutes on hold, I decided to take up the  offer and send in a request for help via the web. Using this <a href="http://www.britishairways.com/travel/custrelform/public/en_us">form</a>,  off it went. A full day later, I&#8217;ve had no response. I&#8217;m glad I wasn&#8217;t emailing  about some lost prescription medicine I needed or anything super crucial.</p>
<p>I had enough energy for one last attempt. I called Excess Baggage again. This  time, the agent explained that no deliveries had come in from BA at all in the  latest shipment, increasing the chances that my item had been found and not  delivered, rather than stolen. I was told again to try back the next day, after  11am.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I did today. Sadly, it hasn&#8217;t come in yet. I was told to keep  checking for another five days, especially since my flight came into Terminal 3,  which BA rarely uses. That could add to the delay in getting it to me.</p>
<p>I also asked if there was a way to know if any items were found on a  particular flight. It seems like it should be pretty easy for someone to check a  database somewhere rather than me being kept guessing to see if my DS turns up  in the Great Lost Property Lottery. I was told that BA does fill out a paper  showing what flights items were found on, but these aren&#8217;t given to Excess  Baggage.</p>
<p>I went back to BA. Didn&#8217;t they have a database they could check? No. But what  about these records that are logged? No info on that, other than there was  nothing for the customer service agent to check. Would they be compensating me  for the loss? No, especially since it could have been taken by one of the other  passengers.</p>
<p>I doubt that. I came back business class on BA. The seats all have these  little lockable storage compartments under them. The DS wasn&#8217;t sitting out on  display, for someone to walk off with. For another passenger to have taken it,  they would have had to open all the little compartments under each seat when  leaving. I highly doubt this happened.</p>
<p>No, if the DS is gone, this is what happened:</p>
<ul>
<li>Someone working directly or indirectly for BA checking all the    compartments found it, took it and failed to log it.</li>
<li>The aircraft wasn&#8217;t fully checked and cleaned (which wouldn&#8217;t surprise    me), and so another passenger came across it when sitting in my seat.</li>
</ul>
<p>Heck, for all I and BA knows, it might be sitting in that compartment still,  flying around the skies. People don&#8217;t tend to use the compartments, from what I  can see. I rarely do because I&#8217;m paranoid that I might forget about putting  something in them (which is exactly what happened).</p>
<p>Even the customer service rep agreed that if the DS doesn&#8217;t turn up, it&#8217;s not  likely that another passenger took it. And so I wait, hoping the next five days  might have better news.</p>
<p>The loss won&#8217;t be a crisis for me, of course. I can get another DS and suffer  the embarrassment of taking less care of mine than I always warn the kids to do  with theirs! It&#8217;s more annoying, than anything. It&#8217;s definitely my fault for  forgetting the darn thing. But I&#8217;m really surprised at how unresponsive BA was  in trying to find it when I called, especially at a time when it was more likely  to get found. Frankly, they didn&#8217;t really seem to care. I&#8217;ll keep that in mind.</p>
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		<title>Light Up! Don&#8217;t Light Up! Conflicted Signs From The Lavatory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My earlier rant about the no smoking light on airplanes will make more sense with this post, which also involved taking my camera into the lavatory. Don&#8217;t panic! There&#8217;s nothing to shield your eyes from other than perhaps a strange juxtaposition of smoking/no smoking signs. Seated upon your aerial throne, you&#8217;re greeted with this confusing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>My earlier <a href="../../060516-001949.html">rant</a> about the  no smoking light on airplanes will make more sense with this post, which also  involved taking my camera into the lavatory. Don&#8217;t  panic! There&#8217;s nothing to shield your eyes from other than perhaps a strange  juxtaposition of smoking/no smoking signs. Seated upon your aerial throne,  you&#8217;re greeted with this confusing situation, as you look at the door:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/147205156/"> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/45/147205156_200973f7ec_d.jpg" border="1" alt="" width="281" height="500" /></a></p>
<p>OK, it looks a bit weird because I had to take three shots to get the whole thing and then piece them together. But you&#8217;ll get the point. Down below, you&#8217;ve got two signs telling you where to put the ashes from your cigarette. Yet up above, you&#8217;re told three different times not to smoke (and even more if you could see the signs over the sink).</p>
<p>Hey, I can&#8217;t even remember the last time I was on a flight that allowed  smoking. Maybe long, long ago when I was still a teenager, perhaps. So why on  earth do these modern planes still have ashtrays in the bathrooms?</p>
<p>Second question &#8212; if you are going to have an ashtray but not allow smoking,  perhaps there should be a no smoking sign over it, rather than one that looks  like an invitation?!!!</p>
<p>Third, you&#8217;ll be happy to know that if you should violate the law, it will  cost less in the UK (about $1,900 at the current exchange rate) than in the US.  The picture below explains all:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/147211033/"> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/51/147211033_cd5383f927_m_d.jpg" border="1" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a></p>
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