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		<title>Things I Hate About LinkedIn As A Group Owner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In just over a year, our Search Engine Land group on LinkedIn has grown to nearly 3,600 members. Despite new features being added for group management, I still feel like I&#8217;m banging my head against the wall in hoping the groups become more usable. So, a short wish list including the ability to message members [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>In just over a year, our<br />
<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/53266/36C49469D41E">Search Engine Land<br />
group</a> on LinkedIn has grown to nearly 3,600 members. Despite new features<br />
being added for group management, I still feel like I&#8217;m banging my head against<br />
the wall in hoping the groups become more usable. So, a short wish list<br />
including the ability to message members directly rather than exporting email<br />
addresses and block competitive ads:</p>
<p><span id="more-410"></span></p>
<ul>
<li><b>Allow For Moderated Discussions: </b>We recently switched on<br />
discussions, and it&#8217;s pretty amazing how the community within our group is<br />
already interacting. But I&#8217;m still wary of someone starting a &quot;discussion&quot;<br />
only to use it for self-promotional purposes. Let the group owner see proposed<br />
discussions and allow them to go public if they meet with the owner&#8217;s<br />
approval.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Allow For Block &amp; Kill On Discussions:</b> It&#8217;s nice that if someone<br />
submits an inappropriate news story, I can kill the story and block the user.<br />
Let me do the same for discussions.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Email Or Feed Of Discussion Activity: </b>Sure, I can see a digest of<br />
what discussions have been started in the group. However, unless I&#8217;ve missed<br />
it, there&#8217;s no way to see the actual comments (and there are plenty of them)<br />
in the discussion without going to the site. That would be nice.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Customized Group Home Page:</b> I don&#8217;t want discussion to be the top<br />
item on the page. I want news to be there. But I can&#8217;t alter this. Nor can I<br />
put up a welcoming message or any type of reminder that discussions and news<br />
articles shouldn&#8217;t be self-promotional. Give me some options here.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Featured Discussion: </b>No problem here! I just love that you have<br />
this feature allowing me to put a discussion at the top of the discussion<br />
list, if I so choose. Thanks!<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Auto-Submit News:</b> Our group is tied to our news web site, so I&#8217;d<br />
like to auto-submit our news items. No can do, as best I can tell. Let me<br />
submit a feed or feed as the list owner of items I think the entire group<br />
should see.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Allow For Moderated News Submission:</b> As with discussions, as the<br />
list owner, I&#8217;d like to see and approve news items that are submitted, to make<br />
sure they&#8217;re not self-promotional.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Message All Members/Members Newsletter:</b> This is crazy. If I want to<br />
message everyone in my group, my only option is to start a discussion or<br />
export their names for use with a mailing list program. I don&#8217;t want to export<br />
names. We run double opt-in for our mailing list software. When I export from<br />
LinkedIn to contact members, I have to explain that we&#8217;ve taken there names<br />
from the LinkedIn list and that if they don&#8217;t want future mailings, they need<br />
to unsubscribe from the group. And whenever we do a new mailing (which is<br />
pretty rare, maybe three or four times per year), we have to pull a fresh list<br />
of members. This should all run from within LinkedIn, so that members can<br />
directly control their communication preferences.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Block Competitive Ads: </b>Seriously, my chief competitor gets to run<br />
ads for their conference targeting my group? Yeah, I&#8217;m not happy about that.<br />
Yeah, I know you need to make money. Still, let me block those ads &#8212; you can<br />
get ads from other people. Think I&#8217;m just whining? Go ask Google about<br />
backlash when anti-Proposition 8 web sites found that pro-Proposition 8 groups<br />
were running ads on their site. I should be able to block. And if I can&#8217;t<br />
block, then I might have to take my thriving community away from LinkedIn.</li>
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		<title>Boudica: My Wife&#8217;s Social News Site For Women Launches</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/boudica-my-wifes-social-news-site-for-women-launches-374</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife, Lorna Harris, has been busy the past few months with a project she launched in beta last week: Boudica.com, a social news site for women. Years and years ago, when we were both doing internet marketing, we got the Boudica.com name thinking it might be good for building a Yahoo-like directory of sites [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>My wife, <a href="http://twitter.com/LornaHarris">Lorna Harris</a>, has been  busy the past few months with a project she launched in beta last week: <a href="http://boudica.com/">Boudica.com</a>, a social news site for women.</p>
<p>Years and years ago, when we were both doing internet marketing, we got the  Boudica.com name thinking it might be good for building a Yahoo-like directory  of sites for women. <a href="http://boudica.com/thename">Boudica was</a> the  queen of the Iceni tribe that fought the Romans when they came into England. She  didn&#8217;t win that fight, but she has remained a woman icon over the centuries.</p>
<p>We never got that directory going &#8212; and as things have changed on the web,  Lorna thought a social news site would be fun to try. It&#8217;s been great to watch  her pull it all together on her own &#8212; finding the developer, working out the  design and so on. Check out the site!</p>
<p>FYI, Boudica.com is the second of two &#8220;queen&#8221; domain names that we own. The  first is <a href="http://calafia.com/">Calafia.com</a>, the name of the  consulting company I started just before I left California back in 1996.</p>
<p>California takes its name from the heroine of a Spanish novel from the 1500s,  Queen Calafia, who ruled over the mythical island of California. When Cortez  discovered the Baja California peninsula, he apparently thought he&#8217;d found the  &#8220;real&#8221; island of California.</p>
<p>Anyway, knowing I was leaving California, I figured naming my company after  the state&#8217;s namesake was a way to take it with me (plus, the domain was  available!). One more coincidence &#8212; former Google chef <a href="http://www.chefcharlieayers.com/">Charlie Ayers</a> has a great love of  California as well, so he&#8217;s also named his <a href="http://searchengineland.com/071023-083814.php">forthcoming restaurant</a> after Calafia, too.</p>
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		<title>Teddy Roosevelt Would Have Loved Web 2.0 Names</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/teddy-roosevelt-would-have-loved-web-20-names-207</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading Theodore Rex &#8212; the biography of President Theodore Roosevelt by Edmund Morris &#8212; and came to a fascinating part where Roosevelt got behind a &#34;simplified spelling&#34; campaign to drop superfluous letters in words. Looking at the spellings, I realized that Teddy Roosevelt would have loved the Web 2.0 era. It&#8217;s a long [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I&#8217;ve been reading<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Theodore-Rex-Edmund-Morris/dp/0394555090"><br />
Theodore Rex</a> &#8212; the biography of President Theodore Roosevelt by Edmund<br />
Morris &#8212; and came to a fascinating part where Roosevelt got behind a<br />
&quot;simplified spelling&quot; campaign to drop superfluous letters in words. Looking at<br />
the spellings, I realized that Teddy Roosevelt would have loved the Web 2.0 era.</p>
<p><span id="more-207"></span></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a long standing joke how Web 2.0 names drop letters in words.<br />
<a href="http://flickr.com/">Flickr</a>, <a href="http://zooomr.com/">Zooomr</a>,<br />
<a href="http://moviemappr.com/">Moviemappr</a> that I talked about on<br />
<a href="http://dailysearchcast.com/060927-125820.html">yesterday&#8217;s</a> Daily<br />
SearchCast podcast are some examples. Compare them to some of the simplified<br />
spellings Roosevelt was pushing for:</p>
<ul>
<li><b>clipt</b> rather than clipped</li>
<li><b>dasht</b> rather than dashed</li>
<li><b>dript</b> rather than dripped</li>
<li><b>fixt</b> rather than fixed</li>
<li><b>lapt</b> rather than lapped</li>
<li><b>ript</b> rather than ripped</li>
<li><b>winkt</b> rather than winked</li>
</ul>
<p>You&#8217;ll find some background on Roosevelt&#8217;s campaign<br />
<a href="http://www.johnreilly.info/alt20.htm">here</a>, along with his list<br />
<a href="http://www.johnreilly.info/trlist.htm">here</a>. Scanning through it, I<br />
can&#8217;t see that there were actually any words where an e was dropped before an<br />
ending r. So maybe he wasn&#8217;t so Web 2.0 after all. </p>
<p>Then again, looking through resource like Ludwig Gatzke&#8217;s<br />
<a href="http://flickr.com/photos/stabilo-boss/101793494/in/set-72057594060779001/"><br />
collage</a> of Web 2.0 logos, there actually don&#8217;t seem to be that many<br />
companies with missing letters after all. Still, perhaps some of Roosevelt&#8217;s<br />
proposed spellings might inspire new companies while the venture capital well is<br />
still spewing out Web 2.0 money.</p>
<p>By the way,<br />
<a href="http://www.firewheeldesign.com/sparkplug/2005/December/four_concentric_circles_of_a_web_20_name.php"><br />
Four Concentric Circles of a Web 2.0 Name</a> is a nice rundown on Web 2.0 names<br />
classified into different groups. <a href="http://www.cerado.com/web20quiz.htm"><br />
Web 2.0 or Star Wars Character?</a> is a new classic quiz that you must take.<br />
And <a href="http://www.cerado.com/web20-interview-with-e.htm">Web 2.0 and The<br />
Letter “e”: The Interview</a> is a must read interview that will make you<br />
chuckle. From the opening:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The darling of the dot-com bubble &#8212; the letter “e” &#8212; is conspicuously<br />
missing and has decided to take a wait and see attitude this time around. </p>
<p>In an exclusive e-mail exchange with our editors, the reclusive vowel talks<br />
about what he’s been doing since the year 2000, his investment strategy, and<br />
his thoughts on whether we’ve entered a new technology bubble.</p>
</blockquote>
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