I posted over at the SEW Blog today about Gmail going down yet again for me, not allowing me to POP download. Just out of the blue, suddenly I was given username and password errors as I’ve had before.
Usually, I’ve been able to correct these errors in various ways, as I’ve covered in these past posts:
- Gmail, Can I Have My Mail Via Pop? Computer Says No: Error 0X800CC92
- More Gmail Sending & Receiving Woes
- Gail & Error 0x800CCC7D In Outlook 2003
Today, there was no such luck. A solid 12 hours after I first got the error, I was still unable to download mail, leaving me more than a little irritated. So I shot off a second email into the oblivion of Gmail support, then saw a link to the Gmail Help Discussion Forum on the page confirming my message had been sent. Could that area help? At the very least, were there others reporting this problem?
Turns out, there’s an entire POP and Forwarding section. In it, I came across this thread where someone reported similar problems. Try the Captcha Unlock form, someone advised.
Captcha unlock? That’s the first I’d heard of this form. But I gave it a shot, going to the page and entering the code shown. Sure enough, I could access the account again!
On the downside, in trying to get things working earlier today, I tried shutting off POP downloading in my settings and then reenabling it “for mail that arrives from now on.” When it came back up, it said I could now download all mail since April 20, 2004.
That was odd. I’ve downloaded all my mail well after that date. But I didn’t worry much. I only had about 30 messages in my inbox. Surely only those would get downloaded.
As it turned out, Gmail sent over 250 messages from around April 21 and nothing past that, nothing in my inbox currently. OK, I tagged all those emails for deletion. Then I tried again. Gmail wanted to send me them all over again!
Next, I tried changing the settings to enabling downloading of all mail. Same problem — Gmail still wanted me to get all 250 messages.
There was only one option left. I tried again to “Enable POP only for mail that arrives from now on.” This time, the April 20 date went away, replaced by the time today I’d reenabled things. Upside? Gmail stopped trying to send me those 250 old messages. Downside? My 30 fresh new messages still sit in my inbox.
Well, at least I’m moving ahead. I’ll forward out those messages in my inbox or deal with them and hope Gmail doesn’t get funky again in the future.
Meanwhile, I went back to understand why the captcha thing was a mystery to me. I’ve been through Gmail’s help pages before when Outlook has produced its mystery errors such as 0X800CC92 or 0x800CCC7D. Here’s the key help page at Gmail about the issue.
POP: I keep receiving prompts to enter my username and password
That page says nothing about captcha unlocking, nada.
I went up a level to review ALL the POP Access topics. Nothing there helpful. I used the Gmail help area search box, looking for the word captcha. Nothing. Finally, I resorted to a Google search of the entire help area for captcha. That brought up this page, POP: I’m having problems downloading mail, which is NOT listed at all on that top level guide to POP access help. It says:
If you see a ‘captcha’ (a security image with distorted letters), you’ll need to log in before you can enable POP access. If you’re locked out of your account, please wait one hour and log in to Gmail again.
OK, now I’m on the right track. The problem is, I never saw a captcha like this. I was able to log into Gmail through the web successfully, and Google Talk was also able to get in. It was only my POP access that had to be unlocked for some reason — and nowhere did Gmail ever tell me it was locked nor did point me to the unlocking page.
Looking at another Google Groups thread, I found a page for reporting lockout problems. Woah! This was unlike any error reporting page I’d seen before, such as the one I’ve used twice today.
To be clear, in Gmail, there’s a Report Bug link in the top right hand corner. That link brings up a fairly simple reporting form for an email address, subject and a summary of the bug problem.
In contrast, this super reporting form asks for much more information about your computer, if a firewall is running, special error messages I’ve never heard of such as “lockdown in Sector 6″ and more.
Why hadn’t I seen this page before? Using the breadcrumb at the top of the page, I backed up into the Contact Us area for Gmail. Then I went into the likely path to reach the form, Help With A Technical Issue > POP Access which in turn suggested that POP: I’m having problems downloading mail message that’s not listed on the general help page.
At the bottom of that is a Report a technical issue link. Clicking on that brings up a help request form — but not the short ones I’ve seen nor the longer one I’ve mentioned earlier. It brings up a THIRD Gmail error reporting form.
So let me recap the absurdity of all this:
- The specific help page matching the error I’ve been getting says nothing about unlocking my account using the captcha form.
- No other help pages point at the magical form, either.
- There are at least three different help request forms that Gmail is using.
Fair to say, things could be a heck of a lot better in providing support over there, just in cleaning up the help area alone.
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I know I’m replying to an old comment – but I am currently experiencing these problems in Outlook 2003.
All gmail configs & Outlook configs are correct and each works without the other (i.e. I can access the email from gmail and other email from Outlook, just not gmail via Outlook POP). However I repeatedly receive the password not accepted message from Outlook.
The only solution has been to “unlock captcha”. The problem, as pointed out by Danny above, is that all previous emails wish to be redownloaded. I have had this happen with other pop accounts in the past as well, so it may be an Outlook 2003 POP interface issue.
In addition, it seems that each time I turn my computer on and off and re-open Outlook, the problem repeats. This is the only commentary I have been able to find on this issue.
Thanks, Danny
Hi Will,
I’m experiencing the same problem in these days, with Outlook Express 6.
If you or somebody else discover a way to fix it I’ll be really appy.
Thanks, Dan
And I am having the same problem with my wife’s email account on her Mac OS X Entourage.
We can log in to the browser view of her account no problem using the password. But using the Entourage 2008 client, no luck… This was working fine up until yesterday morning.
I tried using the captcha page as suggested above but IT says that we are not using the correct login and password… Even though we have gmail open in another window using that exact login and password.
I hit the same issue today — took me 30 minutes to track this down –fortunately, I have gmail pop troublshooter installed, and although it threw 4 different error messages indicating my USER ID was wrong, the very last entry took me to a page that said as a footnote that I could try clearing my captcha — with a link.
I know I’m resurrecting a zombie thread, but I wanted to add a comment that the problem has shown up on my Dad’s computer using Mail.app for Mac twice in the last month.
The first time it took me several hours to come across this solution, but now it’s in memory and I’ve sent him the link so he can fix it himself in the future. It would sure be nice to know what’s triggering this issue!
I just wanna say thanks!
No where i saw this captcha thing and it fixed everything THANK YOU for taking the time to write this text!
Fred
And now I have to go and answer Captcha unlock request every time before receiving mail from gmail server, even 10 times during a day – it is the most moronic mail service that I have forever!
I see I have to arrange resending a mail to another mail server for normal work with my emails. Why Gmail bacame so stupid?
I too am now having the same problem with Outlook being blocked by Gmail, which took HOURS to learn was simply the same captcha issue described above. I have Outlook 2007, from which I was operating my Gmail account just fine for nearly a year, when, all of a sudden, this IMAP SERVER NOT RECOGINIZING issue began to show up and blocked Outlook from synchronizing with Gmail. I had this issue fixed and was operating again – for about 48 hours – then it started all over again. So, why in the heck is this issue continuing, and why does Gmail continue to block Outlook 2007?!?! This really SUCKS.
I’ve got a client with the same problem. she is using Thunderbird on Windows 7. I fixed it with the Captcha unlock rubbish then she calls back the next day saying its doing the same thing.
I’m going to have to give her the link and hope she can work out the captcha or she is going to be calling me all the time about it.
It would be nice to have some indication of why the account is getting locked.
Same issue here using Outlook 8. Use to happen every frew months, then every month, now weekly. I get locked out of emails for hours (can log into gmail and see mail, but POP wont work, so can’t send/receive from my email client). Installing an email server now, and doing away with GMAIL…. it’s a dud (assuming Google are trying to get into the cloud with Google Apps, you think they would get the most important one right… hopeless).
Avoid GMAIL if your intention is to POP mail to your iphone or desktop mail client, very problematic.
The issue still comes up with me, but I’ve learned to deal with it by simply Googleing gmail, captcha, unlock every time it happens. I never know why, but instead of being alarmed, I simply go to:
https://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha and it unlocks and unblocks my Outlook in MS Office 2007 every time. Still doesn’t address the issue of WHY; just simply provides the FIX.
By the way, I operate Outlook in Gmail as an IMAP account, too.
Hope this is helpful.
Thanks, Danny! I just started having this problem this morning & nothing that I tried worked until I found this post.
Thanks again. All fixed.
Cheers,
Deb
Danny
You rock – been scratching my head about this and came across your posting – fixed beautifully
thanks!
Rod