It’s that time of the year again, a favorite time for any US expatriate — the time to ensure you’ve filed the absurd TD F 90-22.1 Report Of Foreign Bank And Financial Accounts form. It’s a huge waste of time, but one expats are forced to endure or face a fine of up to $500,000 and five years in prison. In addition, it’s a form technically impossible to fill out, as I’ll explain and have explained in the past to my US congressional representatives. Net neutrality? That Senator Dianne Feinstein cares to give me a reply about. But an issue that impacts plenty of Americans she represents, this stupid form? Apparently not worth the time for a response. More on that below, along with my easy advice for dealing with this dumb form, for other American expats who are sick of it.
The purpose of the form (you’ll find it here, PDF format) I assume is to help the US government track down money laundering and other financially-related crimes. The closest home the form has on the web is on the U.S. Citizens and Resident Aliens Abroad – Filing Requirements page at the Internal Revenue Service web site. It explains:
Form TD F 90-22.1 must be filed if you had any financial interest in, or signature or other authority over, a bank, securities, or other financial account in a foreign country. You do not have to file the report if the assets are with a U.S. military banking facility operated by a U.S. financial institution or if the combined assets in the account(s) are $10,000 or less during the entire year.
You must file this form by June 30 each year with the Department of the Treasury at the address shown on the form. Form TD F 90-22.1 is not a tax return, so do not attach it to your Form 1040.
In addition, you may be liable for filing Form 3520 or Form 3520-A if you made contributions to or received income from a foreign trust or received a gift from a foreign person.
(NOTE: As of June 30, 2009, that IRS page was still saying the form is here, http://www.fincen.gov/f9022-1.pdf, even though that’s a broken link. Nice. You’ll find it here)
The link to the form itself in the quoted text above actually takes you over to the completely different Financial Crimes Enforcement Network part of the US Treasury. That distinction will become important further down in this tale of bureaucracy.
Now some people don’t have to file this form. As explained, you only need to do if you have more than $10,000 in one or more bank accounts outside the United States. For a student working abroad briefly, as I did years and years ago, this form isn’t an issue.
For an expat living abroad for a longer period of time, it is far more likely you’ll hit the limit requiring you to file. Well, even if you have to, how bad can filing this two page form really be? After all, it tells you right at the bottom:
The estimated average burden associated with this collection of information is 10 minutes per respondent or recordkeeper, depending on individual circumstances.
Try two or three hours.
Here’s the first problem. Say you go over this limit only in one of your bank accounts. That means you have to file details on EVERY bank account you have, even if those other accounts were below the limit. For most people, that will mean you have to file details about at least two accounts — your savings account and your checking / current account.
Still not too bad? What if you have accounts at two different banks, say a regular savings and checking account in a bricks-and-mortar bank, then an online bank for saving at a higher rate? Now you’ve got three accounts.
Hey, did your online bank ask you to open a completely separate and new savings account, where you’ll get a higher rate of interest? That’s pretty common — and gives you a fourth account to file on.
Decide to open a CD / bond? You’re up to five. Doing an offset mortgage? That’s six.
For each account you have, you’ve got to file this information:
- Account Type
- Maximum Value
- Account Number
- Financial Institution
- Country Of Account
- If Filer Has A Financial Interest (duh, you wouldn’t be filing if you didn’t have an interest — but you still have to say so)
- Your Name
- Your Taxpayer ID
- Your Address
Just finding all your account numbers alone will take up a chunk of those supposed 10 minutes to fill out the form. Then there’s having to enter your address and taxpayer ID over and over again. Keep in mind that before you even get to the account data area, you already have to fill out the top of the form with your address and taxpayer ID. So why on earth do you have to keep doing that again for each and every account?
Don’t forget the fun Maximum Value part. For me, that used to mean scrolling through each account in Quicken and trying to figure out the maximum each account hit in a particular year — for each and every account I had. Fun. Fun, fun, fun.
On top of all this, the form is, as I said above, technically impossible to fill out. Here’s why. Box 14 of the top of the form, the overview section that you fill out before giving account info, asks:
Are these accounts jointly owned? a [Yes] b [No]
After you answer that, you have to say the number of joint owners.
OK, I have some accounts that are in my name plus some that are jointly held with me and my wife or me and my children (yes, that account you opened for your kids to put their birthday money from grandparents? if you oversee that account, it goes on the list as well).
Since some are joint and some are none, there’s no correct answer to Box 14. It assumes that all accounts are either one way or another, not that you have a mixture. And when you get into the account data itself, the form never provides any option to say if a particular account is joint or not. Anyone who has one joint and one sole account simply cannot fill out this form correctly, because the form can’t handle that situation.
(NOTE: The form revised at the end of 2008 now has separate sections for individually-owned and jointly owned accounts)
I actually wrote to the US Treasury about this back at the end of 2003. Not surprisingly, I got no response. As part of that letter, I also asked if there was a way to do electronic filing. After all, once you’ve dug out all these account numbers and written your address over and over again, it would be nice to just push a button next year and send that off.
Why not save the information in the PDF file? At the time, this was impossible. Instead, the IRS advised scanning the PDF into Word, then saving information that way. I’m happy to say that the form now has changed so that you can save data into it. So that’s tip number one. Fill out the PDF file, save it, print and then use the file again for next year.
Since this wasn’t an option in 2003, I did something I thought was clever. Within Word, I listed out all the numbers for each box on the page, then put the information next to the number. After all, this information might get rekeyed by someone, so putting the answers this way was easier than trying to decipher my scrawling on the form itself. This allowed me to save my account information.
When 2004 rolled around, I did the same thing again. An entire year had passed, so I assumed the US Treasury must not have had a problem with how I filed. Along with my filing, I sent another letter explaining how time consuming this form was, along with the problem of dealing with a mixture of joint and sole accounts.
Unfortunately, the second time wasn’t a charm. I received a very stern letter telling me that I’d submitted the information in a format that was unacceptable (despite the fact that even if I’d used the actual form, that was impossible to fill out given my mixture of joint and sole accounts). I had 20 days to refile. Interestingly, there was no request to refile my wife’s form, even though it also had been done using my pseudo-electronic format.
(What? Your partner has to file too? Yep. Say all your accounts were jointly held with your spouse. You have to file a form and list all the account information in your name, over and over again — then your spouse has to file their own form with the same information in their name over and over again).
I actually called the IRS department that sent me this letter, to argue the case for electronic filing plus explain the basic fault in the form. They didn’t care. After all — it’s not an IRS form. The IRS processes it, but it’s the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network that responsible for it. If you complain to the IRS, as I’ve done, they pass the buck. And the FCEN, which I’ve written to twice now, clearly doesn’t care either.
In the end, the IRS conversation ended with me being told I’d better get the form in or face going to prison or a big fine. I mentioned these up above. Those are for people who willfully try to avoid this filing burden (and burden it is). But at the end of 2004, the law was changed to try and hurt those who might file late or potentially those who failed to file out of ignorance of the law. PriceWaterhouseCoopers has a rundown on this.
I’m not surprised this was passed. When you live outside the US, you rapidly discover just how little your voice counts for anything. I’ll explain in a future post how the US census bureau doesn’t bother to count us (despite the fact the expat population exceeds that of some US states). Last month, a last minute change was introduced that retroactively raised the tax burden on expats. But why not — it’s not like the congressional reps really seem to care about us, despite the fact that we do indeed vote for them.
Let’s go back to my senior senator from the great state of California, Dianne Feinstein. I sent her office a copy of my same mailing to the US Treasury about the form burden back in 2004, along with a separate letter asking that someone look into this. Not a word back.
Perhaps it got lost in the mail. Perhaps. I’m fairly certain I did follow up So we’ll give her another chance. I’ll point her office at this post, and we’ll see if there’s any action. I’d be particularly interested because of the impressive response I got over net neutrality.
I filled out one of the online forms that promised to forward my request to the senator. Today, I got an email telling me, well, I think that she supports it. It was kind of wishy-washy (and I’m not the only one who thinks that):
I agree with the general principles of network neutrality that owners of the networks that provide access to the Internet should not control how consumers lawfully use that network and should not be able to discriminate against content provider access to that network.
As Congress debates changes to our telecommunications laws this year, many different proposals have been offered regarding network neutrality. The question arises whether or not action is needed to ensure unfettered access to the Internet. I believe any workable solution must balance the needs of the network, service and information providers. Please know that when legislation regarding network neutrality comes before the Senate I will be sure to keep your specific views in mind.
But net neutrality aside, why couldn’t I get a response like this on my earlier letter?
You can see how little expats matter by a visit to the senator’s web site, however. Want to contact her? Just out the instructions:
Due to the volume of email we receive, we are only able to respond to messages that contain a California postal address.
Um, I live outside the United States, so what California postal address am I supposed to give? But keep in mind, while I live outside the United States, California remains my legal state of residence, entitling me to vote in federal elections (such as voting for the good senator, as I have every time she’s run). So how about perhaps a nod to the Californian overseas that might want a little help from their elected official.
But enough of the overall sorry state of representation expats have. What’s the best way to deal with the ridiculous TD F 90-22.1 form that no criminal will ever fill out, making this a waste of time upon the non-criminals who are forced to do it?
It’s easy. Have more than 25 non-US bank accounts.
If you have more than 25 accounts, then when you get to Box 20, write the total amount you have. And that’s it, you’re done. You don’t have to itemize any more of the accounts. No account numbers, no writing your address out a trillion times repetitively — you’re done.
There’s a chance the US Treasury will request this information after you file. You aren’t in trouble if they do. That’s just how it works. They’ll ask for it if they want, and if they don’t, you’re fine. Last year, this is how I refiled. I realized I had more than 25 accounts, so I was done.
So go for it. Open a number of online savings and current accounts. Get above that 25 accounts mark, and maybe you’ll find this form really does only take the 10 minutes its estimated to take. And maybe one day, the form will get updated, or made electronic, or eliminated, not be required for bank accounts in certain countries (such as the UK, which requires a ton of ID to open an account) or have the limit lowered so you don’t have to itemize unless you have fewer than five accounts. Certainly something better could be done than this farce expats have to go through every year.
Next time in expat tax issues — the fun of remembering exactly where you were a year ago, including whether it was a work day, a non-work day and what country it was in. Don’t worry — I’ll have a spreadsheet to help you do it. ‘Cause as every expat knows, if you can’t remember all that information, you can’t file your taxes.
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Danny – At least you have someone to right for. Whatever happened to no taxation without representation? As a Green Card holder, I have the honour of paying US taxes but sadly, can’t vote. Alas, I suppose it is my choice! Thanks for the reminder, I might have spent a few years in jail if it wasn’t for your blog post!!
Hello Danny,
I am facing the annual FBAR ritual this year. I have just realized that I may not have filed this for the past two years due to the odd timing. So now I face the prospect of incurring $10,000 fines for each year that I neglected to file. I agree that this is a hateful document, and as a Californian I am also sending Senator Feinstein a letter (with CA return address!). I found a wealth of information at http://www.hbtlj.org/v07p1/v07p1Sheppardar.pdf . Thanks for the post.
I have to agree, it is a complete waste of time. However, I would assume the question about joint accounts just means if ANY account is a joint account. As for a way to fill it out quicker, put each account on it’s own page and copy it before filling in year and page number. Then next year you can simply make a copy and fill in those two pieces of information.
I am under the assumption that when ING Direct gives me a different account number for a GIC or such, it is still just one account with the numbers for their own accounting purposes. So I do not fill out each 90 day GIC. I do however report life insurance policies, as I can draw funds from them, so they are a form of bank account.
Maybe I’m wrong, and one day I will get hit on that issue. It is impossible to know, as even my professional accountant does not know what should be included and what shouldn’t…
If the maximum value of the account is supposed to be filled in in dollars rather than the local currency of the bank account, you need to get the historical rate of exchange for the date with the maximum value. Further, the form does not specify whether the ‘maximum value’ means maximum as measured in local currency or in dollars. If the exchange rate changes much during the year, your account may have a maximum amount in dollars at a time different from the maximum amount in local currency. But surely no one is actually going to bother to work out what the maximum is in dollars during a period of changing exchange rates.
Another funny aspect of this form is that it requires you to know the maximum balance even if you only have signature authority over an account. I have such, but have never taken money out (or put it in) from
the account, and have never seen a statement. It’s only a convenience, in case of my parents’ inability to access it.
I cannot believe I have lived in the UK for nearly 10 years and this is the first I’ve ever heard of this form. Should my accountant have told me about it?
If you have more than $10,000 in any bank account outside the US, yes, I’d hope they’d have told you about it.
Good news. There’s an amnesty program lasting this month. It’s a good opportunity to file the forms and avoid any penalties. There’s advice here:
http://www.aca.ch/joomla/images/pdfs/taxoffsh.htm
Thanks Danny. What about Group Personal Pensions? Do they count?
I have no idea. They might. Pensions also have more complicated forms, to my understanding, as they might involved investments. Talk to your accountant.
Dear Danny,
I only just found out about this form by chance yesterday. I am an American married to a German and have been living and working in Germany for the past 30 years. My husband has never worked or lived in the U.S. Our lives are here in Germany. We pay very high taxes on our combined income here. My husband is a dentist and I am a teacher (since March 2008) in an international school (not American run). I have a bank account where my salary is paid into in one bank and a joint account in another bank with my husband. I can understand, sort of, that I would have to fill out the form about my personal bank account, but surely my joint account with my husband who has nothing to do with the U.S., IRS etc other than the fact that he is married to one, should not have to be entered onto that form. That would be a violation of his privacy since it is HIS German earned money that is in that account.
I find the wording on these forms to be incomprehensible and very often don´t find my own situation to be illustrated. There must be millions of Americans married to foreigners and living abroad (happily) with no intentions of returning stateside who are in this same situation as I am.
I have not been in the U.S. for a visit (3 weeks) since 2006 and am planning on coming over this summer for a month. I am very concerned that I could encounter difficulties for not having ever filed this form.
What do you advise me. I would appreciate any help you can give me.
Sincerely,
Charlene
P.S. Happy New Year!
http://www.aca.ch/joomla/images/pdfs/taxoffsh.htm
In the above article it says:
“Retirement Accounts. Many countries have retirement accounts similar to the U.S. Individual Retirement Account. Canada has its RRSP. The U.K. has its ISA. For U.S. income tax purposes these are not retirement accounts. They’re treated as ordinary investment accounts and you are taxed on the income earned in them every year. You can solve this problem with filing the right papers with the IRS. But you have to file. Watch out for pension plans that you have.”
What is this nonsense?
That means US citizen living aborad can never benefit from investing in tax fee investments in other country. Not even a pension plan.
Is this real? Is there any way to submit any forms to IRS to recognize the pension plans of the other country?
You worked hard in foreign country and invested in retirement plans (similar to Roth IRA in US), but because you are a US citizen, US will tax you on the Roth IRA kind of account in foreign country?
This doesn’t make any sense at all.
http://www.hodgen.com/why-the-voluntary-disclosure-program-is-off-the-rails-and-how-to-fix-it/
And filing a FBAR (TD F 90-22.1) is a joke. The main objective is to find money laundering activity. But no criminal is going to fill this form. Its like asking all the criminals to register their illegal guns.
We have huge problem of illegal immigrants in USA. One day they will get amnesty but US citizen living abroad will get big fine and jail time for not filling stupid FBAR (TD F 90-22.1) form for foreign bank accounts.
Great post! How about the way the bottom of the pdf form where it states “printed on recycled paper”? Really – do they know what I have put in my printer?? I also have similar issues to Charlene, re joint accounts: my spouse has no connection to the U.S. in any way (and I’ve been living outside of the U.S. for 38 years). And, what about these maximum values per account? If you move a large chunk from one account to another, are you supposed to include in each? Is each GIC considered a separate account (a good way to get up to 25).
One can ask question about FBAR by sending email to FBARquestions@irs.gov
I have asked them if one moves more than $10000 from one account to another, do they need to report both accounts maxinum value. For example if I move $25000 from account1 to account2, then do I need to report $25000 maximum value for both account1 and account2. Waiting for their reply.
I will post here once I get a response from them.
First, I’m very sympathetic to the whole issue here – I’ve been living abroad for 15 years and have filed the report many times. The most recent form and the instructions obviate the need for a lot of the leading information, so the author would do well to cut out some of the history above that is no longer applicable and focus on what the here and now requires. I’ve also seen that some requests have been filed to have the $10K level – which hasn’t changed since the requirement was laid down – bumped up to $50K. Let’s hope that happens. The filing requirements for US citizens (regardless of the spouse’s nationality) are still the same when they have signature authority over the accounts and it exceeds the $10K level. The translation is to be made of the account as if the highest value of the account were valued on the last day of the reporting year – so you need to only compute the highest figure found in any account over which you had signature authority and translate it at the year end rate. I too am MORE THAN ANNOYED by the need to give every bloody account number and amount, especially as I have some very small Euro investments – which barely add value to the picture – that I need to include in the report. Here’s a valuable bit from the instructions that helps the married couple, and solves the non-US citizen issue in some cases: “A spouse having a joint financial interest in an account with the filing spouse should be included as a joint account owner in Part III of this report. The filer should write (spouse) on
Line 26 after the last name of the joint spousal owner. If the
only reportable accounts of the filer’s spouse are those
reported as joint accounts, the filer’s spouse need not file a
separate report. If the accounts are owned jointly by both
spouses, the filer’s spouse should also sign the report.” Best to read the whole section on Part III, items 25-33 to fit your circumstances, but that part helped a bit, confirming no further forms were needed by my spouse, just here John Hancock. Anyway, an update would be helpful, and especially if someone in the US Congress could put their spin on it as well. It would probably be in the best interest of the US if they did another “amnesty” on this forms prior year requirements and publicized it broadly in the press. I suspect there are literally a million people who’ve never filed the form simply living under the impression that if they were married to a non-US citizen they’d never need to file… I personally buy into that logic, but perhaps wording would have to be carefully drafted. The US seems to be the only nation on the planet to impose such onerous tasks on their non-resident citizens.
I forgot to file last year. If I send in last years with an explanation, what are the chances of actually getting zinged?
I’m not a tax attorney, so I can’t say. As you can see from my story above, I filed late once but nothing happened. There was an amnesty recently offered:
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=210027,00.html
But that expired. If it were me, I’d mail it in without an explanation. You’re probably too small a fish for them to fry, I’d say
Danny, I love this post. I first came across it three years ago when I first had to file this bloody form. It helped me get my head around the surreal reality of it at the time. Prior to reading your post, I couldn’t quite believe I was actually expected to file such a document, giving so many details of my personal finances. But, alas, it was true…
Three years later, having just completed my and my husbands forms again (copy-paste, copy-paste, copy-paste), I have revisited your post simply to read the words of someone who hates this form as much as I do. What a ludicrous waste of time!
Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to write the post in the first place. It’s been a great help.
To dickh and others. I have been informed otherwise regarding the spouse issue. If you read the Form instructions ” Who Must File this Report” it states that ONLY a United States Person must file. United States Person is clearly defined (see General Definitions) as “a citizen or resident of the United States, or a person doing business in the United States.” Period. My wife does not meet any of these definitions (neither citizen; nor resident, nor does any business in the US). She therefore need not file. The part on the instructions which mentions spouse only tells me how to file jointly assuming both spouses (or joint account holders) are US Citizens.
Sorry, I go strictly by the General insructions of “Who must File”; and that is clear a non US Person spouse need not put his/her name on this form.
It seems that one question was not raised concerning this form.
As I understand you need to add up all the account and be greater that 10K. Well , If I look at my statement , there is a big minus for the mortgage line, which is definitively a financial account.
So when I add up all the account, I do not have the 10K , I am well under in the minus , so I consider that I do not have to file the form.
Do you all agree with this approch ?
I am confused about the form. Im US cit, reside in Canada..hubby has RRSP’s in my name for the down line tax break. Do these RRSP’s, that only he contirbutes to, need to be reported since they are in my name? Sounds like it, yes?? As an Account where Filer has Signature but no Finacial interest, or Accounts owned Separately, or Jointly?? confused…!
Well, I’m just going to renounce. I can’t go on being under this mess for the rest of my life let alone put my foreign spouse and child under it. I have always been a stay at home mom to a disabled son. I called the IRS over the years a few times to be sure I was in compliance with them and was told I did not meet the requirement to file! Not.a.word.about.FBAR. I’ve just heard of it. Now I understand that I’m to report to them on my foreign spouses bank account with earnings in it from his foreign job in a foreign country, all because I have signing rights on the account? That is just incredibly intrusive and really violates his privacy without his consent as he is not American and we had not a penny of U.S. income. I can pay bills out of the account but, that is as far as my involvement with those funds goes. Only one year was the balance over ten thousand as the highest balance…and I’d be late filing that. Any fines will come out of a foreign persons earnings. This is too much along with FATCA for me to put up with. I’ve not lived in the U.S. for thirty years. I did vote once…but, no one I write to about this situation ever gets back to me at all. We are already treated as “non citizens” and worse, we are lumped in with criminal tax cheats even when we owed no taxes. FBAR penalties are draconian and frightening. If I’m to be treated this way on our lowly income there’s no advantage to me keeping citizenship at all. I hear I’m not alone. Seems the Toronto embassy has gone from five renouncing persons a year to twenty in one week recently with another twenty scheduled. I don’t think I will ever forgive this over reaching FATCA legislation for forcing me to choose between protecting my foreign spouse and child or my country of birth. But there you have it. That’s what it’s done. We aren’t represented even when we do vote, as no one pays a dimes worth of attention to our situation however unfair or dire. So what is the point of keeping citizenship. Not a bit of point to it for those of us on middle and lower incomes. None.
@Ruth: My understanding is that it’s not that easy to renounce and could trigger other unwelcome consequences. I feel trapped.
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