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		<title>By: http://usfriends.net/</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/sensible-digital-pricing-3074/comment-page-1#comment-30666</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karyn</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/sensible-digital-pricing-3074/comment-page-1#comment-30646</link>
		<dc:creator>Karyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 03:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use www.gaschoolstore.com to order my WSJ subscription.  It also has gone up (now $99 per 6 months instead of per year) but 40% goes to the participating school of your choice!  Great Christmas gift for my in-laws!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use <a href="http://www.gaschoolstore.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gaschoolstore.com</a> to order my WSJ subscription.  It also has gone up (now $99 per 6 months instead of per year) but 40% goes to the participating school of your choice!  Great Christmas gift for my in-laws!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/sensible-digital-pricing-3074/comment-page-1#comment-30626</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reading nytimes since 2008 but i never subscribe it. I am not a regular newspaper reader so me it is okay to read it for free. I want to know how it make a difference to subscribe it for a common person like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading nytimes since 2008 but i never subscribe it. I am not a regular newspaper reader so me it is okay to read it for free. I want to know how it make a difference to subscribe it for a common person like me.</p>
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		<title>By: Reid</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/sensible-digital-pricing-3074/comment-page-1#comment-30487</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really pisses me off about the New York Times is that, if you pay for All Digital Access, they *double charge* you for the web access portion.  Notice how the &quot;All Digital Access&quot; price is precisely the same cost as &quot;Web + Tablet&quot; and &quot;Web + Smartphone&quot;?  Yeah.

I&#039;ve told them repeatedly, asked via twitter, emailed and called customer service, and nobody is interested in giving me an answer.  Nobody is interested in understanding that they&#039;re insulting their customers when they give them the finger and ask them to pay for, effectively, a second subscription because they want to read their web + tablet subscription on their phone, which has a smaller screen than EITHER.  Most businesses give discounts for buying more services.  This is the only one I&#039;m aware of that actually jacks the price up with the more you buy.

I simply don&#039;t care about introductory offers.

I don&#039;t even really care what the total bill is.  I&#039;d like to subscribe to the NYTimes.  I just don&#039;t want to be insulted.  (nor do I want to scrape a dead-tree edition off of my doorstep every morning and drop it in the recycling without reading it; been there, done that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really pisses me off about the New York Times is that, if you pay for All Digital Access, they *double charge* you for the web access portion.  Notice how the &#8220;All Digital Access&#8221; price is precisely the same cost as &#8220;Web + Tablet&#8221; and &#8220;Web + Smartphone&#8221;?  Yeah.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve told them repeatedly, asked via twitter, emailed and called customer service, and nobody is interested in giving me an answer.  Nobody is interested in understanding that they&#8217;re insulting their customers when they give them the finger and ask them to pay for, effectively, a second subscription because they want to read their web + tablet subscription on their phone, which has a smaller screen than EITHER.  Most businesses give discounts for buying more services.  This is the only one I&#8217;m aware of that actually jacks the price up with the more you buy.</p>
<p>I simply don&#8217;t care about introductory offers.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even really care what the total bill is.  I&#8217;d like to subscribe to the NYTimes.  I just don&#8217;t want to be insulted.  (nor do I want to scrape a dead-tree edition off of my doorstep every morning and drop it in the recycling without reading it; been there, done that.)</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/sensible-digital-pricing-3074/comment-page-1#comment-30485</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 08:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article.
I&#039;ve been frustrated with this kind of attitude for years and believe we&#039;re likely to see a full repeat of it with streaming Media.

This is well stated in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/05/hbo-go-without-hbo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;Take my Money HBO&quot; &lt;/a&gt; campaign. Highlighting how media companies are just so backwards...If all reports are correct, better pricing would significantly increase HBO revenue... (and reduce piracy no doubt)

I have always been a fan of transparent pricing and generally believe its the best approach. As a long time Marketer (Digital) I&#039;ve recently taken a strong interest in Economics. 

One of the things I&#039;ve been looking into is theories of asymmetric information and price discrimination. This article featuring JC Penney &lt;a href=&quot;http://redtape.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/25/11864178-fair-and-square-pricing-thatll-never-work-jc-penney-we-like-being-shafted&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;fair and square pricing won&#039;t work&quot; &lt;/a&gt; highlights some real world issues for business&#039;s not &quot;trying to rip you off&quot;.

I&#039;d be interested in the numbers/details in the newspaper examples above - i.e what&#039;s the a$10 double dipping worth to them as an aggregate? and how many people accidentally continue the subscription etc..

Its disappointing if this is really the world where deliberate mis-information is the best way to maximize profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article.<br />
I&#8217;ve been frustrated with this kind of attitude for years and believe we&#8217;re likely to see a full repeat of it with streaming Media.</p>
<p>This is well stated in the <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/05/hbo-go-without-hbo/" rel="nofollow"> &#8220;Take my Money HBO&#8221; </a> campaign. Highlighting how media companies are just so backwards&#8230;If all reports are correct, better pricing would significantly increase HBO revenue&#8230; (and reduce piracy no doubt)</p>
<p>I have always been a fan of transparent pricing and generally believe its the best approach. As a long time Marketer (Digital) I&#8217;ve recently taken a strong interest in Economics. </p>
<p>One of the things I&#8217;ve been looking into is theories of asymmetric information and price discrimination. This article featuring JC Penney <a href="http://redtape.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/25/11864178-fair-and-square-pricing-thatll-never-work-jc-penney-we-like-being-shafted" rel="nofollow"> &#8220;fair and square pricing won&#8217;t work&#8221; </a> highlights some real world issues for business&#8217;s not &#8220;trying to rip you off&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in the numbers/details in the newspaper examples above &#8211; i.e what&#8217;s the a$10 double dipping worth to them as an aggregate? and how many people accidentally continue the subscription etc..</p>
<p>Its disappointing if this is really the world where deliberate mis-information is the best way to maximize profits.</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/sensible-digital-pricing-3074/comment-page-1#comment-30437</link>
		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good analysis.  I unfortunately do what one of your readers suggested - delete cookies just renew my NYT access.  I have sent them countless emails pleading with them to change their pricing policy to something more rational.  I even explain to them that I read for free.  If they would change, I would gladly pay.  My recommendation to them was to bundle subscriptions. If I want to read NYT, WSJ and say, the Economist, charge bundle that in way that makes me pay more than what NYT is charging, but much less than the three.  I would gladly do that.  
Anyway, my guess is that they could double their subscription rate with a sensible strategy. 
HH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good analysis.  I unfortunately do what one of your readers suggested &#8211; delete cookies just renew my NYT access.  I have sent them countless emails pleading with them to change their pricing policy to something more rational.  I even explain to them that I read for free.  If they would change, I would gladly pay.  My recommendation to them was to bundle subscriptions. If I want to read NYT, WSJ and say, the Economist, charge bundle that in way that makes me pay more than what NYT is charging, but much less than the three.  I would gladly do that.<br />
Anyway, my guess is that they could double their subscription rate with a sensible strategy.<br />
HH</p>
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		<title>By: bkd69</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/sensible-digital-pricing-3074/comment-page-1#comment-30378</link>
		<dc:creator>bkd69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 03:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheaper still for the Economist:
Download and install Calibre:
http://calibre-ebook.com/
Click the little down arrow next to the big &#039;Fetch News&#039; button in the tool bar.
Select &#039;Schedule News Download&#039; from the resulting menu
Type &#039;economist&#039; into the search window, and it&#039;ll show the script (they call it a recipe, but they&#039;re written in Python) offerings for downloading The Economist&#039;s RSS feed. 

Poke around in there to configure scheduling and retention and formatting policies to your liking, but they update weekly, and it&#039;s as near a complete version of the magazine as I can tell, though I&#039;m not a reader of the print edition, to be able to say for sure.

The short of it is that Calibre will grab the RSS feed, and format it to an ebook format of your choosing. You can schedule downloads for daily or weekly, though you have to leave Calibre running to do that or schedule it, or run it as a service, or what have you. There&#039;s a bunch of other scripts for other newsfeeds as well, including the NYT, but that requires a password which I haven&#039;t set up from my subscription yet. The Economist is one of the better working ones, bringing down the cover as well as the contents.

Who else remembers AvantGo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheaper still for the Economist:<br />
Download and install Calibre:<br />
<a href="http://calibre-ebook.com/" rel="nofollow">http://calibre-ebook.com/</a><br />
Click the little down arrow next to the big &#8216;Fetch News&#8217; button in the tool bar.<br />
Select &#8216;Schedule News Download&#8217; from the resulting menu<br />
Type &#8216;economist&#8217; into the search window, and it&#8217;ll show the script (they call it a recipe, but they&#8217;re written in Python) offerings for downloading The Economist&#8217;s RSS feed. </p>
<p>Poke around in there to configure scheduling and retention and formatting policies to your liking, but they update weekly, and it&#8217;s as near a complete version of the magazine as I can tell, though I&#8217;m not a reader of the print edition, to be able to say for sure.</p>
<p>The short of it is that Calibre will grab the RSS feed, and format it to an ebook format of your choosing. You can schedule downloads for daily or weekly, though you have to leave Calibre running to do that or schedule it, or run it as a service, or what have you. There&#8217;s a bunch of other scripts for other newsfeeds as well, including the NYT, but that requires a password which I haven&#8217;t set up from my subscription yet. The Economist is one of the better working ones, bringing down the cover as well as the contents.</p>
<p>Who else remembers AvantGo?</p>
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		<title>By: kw</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/sensible-digital-pricing-3074/comment-page-1#comment-30377</link>
		<dc:creator>kw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Economist - you can get cheaper subscriptions depending on where you say you are reading the magazine.  Tired of the games but will play them if it saves some money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Economist &#8211; you can get cheaper subscriptions depending on where you say you are reading the magazine.  Tired of the games but will play them if it saves some money.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://daggle.com/sensible-digital-pricing-3074/comment-page-1#comment-30374</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 17:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quit the WSJ some time ago, I keep hanging in there on the NYTimes even though you&#039;re quite right -- the pricing is insane. (Try getting a receipt to expense it; it&#039;s buried somewhere in the &quot;Your Account&quot; section of the site, but you have to have serious coding skills to find it. It&#039;s under &quot;Account History&quot; btw and I had to use other software to generate an image of it.)

Hey NYTimes, ever heard of emailing a receipt to someone like modern companies started doing in the early 2000s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quit the WSJ some time ago, I keep hanging in there on the NYTimes even though you&#8217;re quite right &#8212; the pricing is insane. (Try getting a receipt to expense it; it&#8217;s buried somewhere in the &#8220;Your Account&#8221; section of the site, but you have to have serious coding skills to find it. It&#8217;s under &#8220;Account History&#8221; btw and I had to use other software to generate an image of it.)</p>
<p>Hey NYTimes, ever heard of emailing a receipt to someone like modern companies started doing in the early 2000s?</p>
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		<title>By: mathew</title>
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		<dc:creator>mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 03:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think NYT and WSJ digital vs paper subscription pricing is crazy, wait until you try The Economist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think NYT and WSJ digital vs paper subscription pricing is crazy, wait until you try The Economist.</p>
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