Sky HD Installed & Live: My First Experiences

by Danny Sullivan on June 6, 2006

in TV

At last, I’ve got Sky HD. The install happened on Saturday, and now I’m
enjoying glorious pictures. Well, nicer ones with the occasional wow factor.
Here’s the rundown on how things work and are going so far.

Let’s start outdoors, with the disk upgrade:


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Hanging off the disk is the new "octo"
LNB. That’s octo as in
having eight outputs. Previously, I had a quad LNB as does anyone with a Sky+
box. You needed the quad because Sky+ required at least two outputs, and a
standard Sky LNB has only one. The quad let you have Sky+ along with capacity
for an additional regular Sky box or two.

Sky HD is just like Sky+ — you need two outputs. And if you already have
Sky+ like me, you’ll might want to keep that box under a multiroom subscription.
So that’s four outputs needed. But I asked for the octo, because I’ll use the
fifth lead eventually to run a spare Sky box as a free-to-air/Freeview box (and
still will have three spare ones after that). I’d heard octos were available,
and the installer didn’t hesitate to put one on. I’d recommend you ask for it to
ensure it’s provided.

Here’s a close-up, where I’ve pulled the little covering box down from the
LNB, to expose where the leads go in:


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You can see I’m using only four of the eight so far. Adding extras is easy –
just attach the additional cable.

Onward to the Sky HD decoder box, which is contained within its own pretty
box:


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What have we got inside? Here’s everything:


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Specifically, you’ve got the Sky HD box itself, a power cord for the box and
a remote and batteries. There’s an RF cable, a phone line cable, a Scart cable
and amazingly, and HDMI cable.

Actually, perhaps it’s not so amazing they threw this in. Without that cable,
you’re either not going to get actual HD quality or you’ll have to get it
through a component video output. And since your TV likely only has one HDMI
(mine has two; more are beginning to do this) and
one component input, you’ll want to save component for your DVD player. Giving
you the HDMI cable ensures you aren’t going to be calling Sky and complaining.

I actually already had an HDMI cable — two, in fact, which I’d ordered in
advance to be on the safe side. I
found them from
MediaAtlantic, unbranded Belkin ones for the incredibly low price of £8.80. Of
course, they might not be Belkin at all. They didn’t come in Belkin packaging
(and MediaAtlantic did explain this on the product page). But they don’t have
anything I can see on the cables themselves to indicate Belkin actually made them, either.

Still, with most generic cables I’ve seen selling in the £20 range, I figured
it was a good gamble. They’re working fine as far as I can tell, and perhaps
down the line I’ll upgrade to one from someone like Monster, just to be safe.
Certainly I’ve seen the difference a good Scart cable can make — and that Sky
cable, while nice to have included, probably isn’t that great. The Scart cable
certainly is cheap.

Let’s look at the box itself some more. From the front, nothing thrilling –
standard buttons (and your Sky card goes into a hidden slot on the right-hand
side, visible after you fold down a panel. The slot you see is for the still
never-to-have-materialized interactive card):


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And now the far more interesting back:


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Closeup from the left-side:


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Going from left-to-right, you can see the two dish input sockets, then the
phone input. A serial RS-232 socket as on all Sky Digital boxes is there, still
doing absolutely nothing after all these years. There’s an aerial in socket,
along with the usual two RF outlets. You’ve got an optical audio out socket as
with Sky+, not needed if you use HDMI to my understanding, which will carry both
digital video and audio. You will need it for surround sound, to run to a
separate amp. To date, I’ve not seen any HD set with built in surround. Why
remains a mystery I’ll have to research. My old CRT set and plenty of others had
true surround sound built in — and personally, I hate the complication of a
separate amp.

Yes, that’s a USB socket you can see — and no, it doesn’t work to my
knowledge. There have been high hopes we’ll be able to plug some type of device
into this in the future. Given how Sky never made use of the serial port, I’m
not holding out much hope. Next you’ve got component video sockets, then analog
sound inputs along with an S-Video connection.

And for the other side:


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You can see the standard Scart outputs (non-European readers, Scart is a
high-quality way of sending audio/video between devices used in Europe, with the
main downside being the big-ass cables that like to fall out of their slots).
Then there’s the HDMI slot, then an Ethernet port and a SATA port for an external
hard drive. Neither the Ethernet or the SATA ports do anything yet, to my
knowledge.

Let’s do the remotes:


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On the left, the usual Sky+ remote. In the middle, the new one — slightly
wider and much more comfortable to hold. On the left is my baby, my Harmony
all-in-one remote that I’ll someday blog in more depth. Short story - get one,
and you won’t look back.

Let’s pile them up:


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You can see the new Sky HD remote
(in the middle) is slightly thinner. Good news — it
operates exactly the same as the regular Sky+ remote. Specifically, I didn’t
have to reprogram my Harmony at all, which sends standard Sky+ commands. In
contrast, the regular Sky remotes and Sky+ aren’t interchangeable. The only
quirk I’ve noticed is that if I’m using PVR functions on the Harmony — fast
forward, rewind, pause — I have to hit the correct button twice to get a
reaction. I’ll look into this more down the line.

Next, some menus:


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Look at the bottom of the picture above. See the HD Channels option for your
red button? That’s new, and it brings up this:


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That lists everything showing in HD on Sky. It’s all of one single screen page — what you
see above is all there is. So far, the BBC is doing only boring previews. Sky One is
active with stuff — more on this in a bit. And this week, I’ve suddenly watched
Discovery and National Geographic more than in the past eight years, just to see
something in HD :)

How about some settings? Look at this:


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See down at the bottom, HD Resolution Output? That’s where you can see what
level of HD is sent to your TV. Options are:

  • 576
  • 720p
  • 1080i
  • Automatic

Mine is set to 1080i. That’s because the installer said that Sky is advising
everyone who can run this at the moment to use it. He didn’t give an explanation,
but I think the reason is based on what you get if you change it:


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See that screen? After you do it, the picture flickers for a short period (a
few seconds) and then stabilizes. I’m guessing that if you’re on automatic and
flipping through channels being sent in different resolutions, you’d likely get
that flicker and be annoyed quickly. As I’ll come back to, Sky also warns the
box is sluggish and somewhat unstable. So 1080i may be deemed the safest route
until things improve.

So let’s look at some pictures. If you’re watching HD, Sky lets you know by
putting HD in the reverse bar on the info screen, as you can see below as Chloe
works to save Jack in 24:


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Ah, Chloe — I love her on so many levels.

Unfortunately, Sky doesn’t say what the HD quality is. Are you sending in
1080i? 720p? 576? Something else? Frankly, I’d like to know.

Picture quality? President Logan, can you lend an ear?


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That’s the slimeball in HD. Now big caveat! I’m shooting a picture off my TV
with my camera, which is going to lose quality for various reasons, not to
mention a further reduction in reducing it for the web. But look at
his ear. See how the border of his ear and the background is fairly sharp. Now
look at this from my regular TV:


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See how the ear has a fuzzy bit along it? That’s typically of what annoys me
with regular TV. It gets all pixilated or ghosted at times like this around
heads and objects that move. Plus, you can see the scan lines on the regular TV.
Sure, far away, you don’t notice as much. But HD TV has many more lines, thus
nicer pictures.

So far, the HD picture seems to have improved that. However, here’s another
caveat. Some of what’s broadcast on Sky One wasn’t originally shot in HD, to my
knowledge. In these cases, my understanding is that they are upscaling the
image. In other words, take a low resolution photo and increase the resolution.
You don’t get more detail, since you can’t somehow add what wasn’t there before.
But perhaps it might look smoother or less jagged. That’s what seems to happen
with the old shows. They have a softer, gentler appearance. It’s not bad, but it
doesn’t make your mouth drop.

Now consider this from National Geographic, first the HD shot:


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Then the regular TV shot, or more specifically, an HD picture sent through the
Scart cable, so it should be coming out at a much lower resolution:

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My photos don’t do it justice. The nature channels, to my knowledge, are
using lots of actual HD footage. And there are indeed times when I’m amazed at
the quality. No, I don’t think I could just jump in to a "real" picture. But the
quality improvement is noticeable, and I want to see more of it.

OK, some more notes. Storage, you’ve got 160GB of it. HD’s going to take
more, but I can’t say many hours your likely to get on the box yet. I’m still
filling it up.

Sky gives you a special information sheet warning:

  • It takes longer to start a box if it’s been unplugged
  • It takes longer to switch channels between HD and non-HD
  • Fast forward and rewind might not be as responsive
  • The box might freeze or stop working

Reassuring! And minutes after I started using it, my box did indeed just
crash and go dark for no apparent reason. I had to unplug it from the mains to
get going again. The good news is, once it restarted, it’s been stable ever
since.

Some other things. First, if you have Sky+, get all your programs off. We
have multiroom, so Sky+ was our own box and viewing card, with an old Sky box in
another room. Our main viewing card had to go into the Sky HD box — meaning our
secondary viewing card had to move to the Sky+ box. And if you do that, apparently
you lose access to all recorded programs. My DVD recorder was busy as soon as
the installer left. When I was done the next day, with all stored programs
removed, THEN I called Sky myself to do the card move around. That went fine,
and HD channels were accessible in an hour or less. By the way, none of the
series link stuff on the Sky+ box got deleted.

Also, while you pay more for HD, as I’ve
covered before, there’s no extra
charge for Sky+ to be your multiroom box. IE, you don’t pay for Sky+
functionality twice. So now we have a nice backup if the HD box goes crazy or
heaven forbid we want to record three or four things at once. Of course, you
still have to go into the other room to watch the other box and see it in
regular TV.

Be aware the HD box puts out a lot of heat. A lot of heat. If you put it in
an enclosed or tight space, I think you’ll have problems. It’s amazingly hot,
the air blowing out of it. Fortunately, it’s still pretty silent despite this. I
notice the hard drive writes more than any fan action.

That’s pretty much it, for the moment. Overall, I’m not blown away by HD, but
it’s still early days. I’d definitely go for it if you were debating between
Sky+ or not and you had an HD capable TV. FYI, mine is a Toshiba 32WLT66, 32"
being the biggest my wife will allow in the house. So perhaps I’d be more blown
away with a bigger set. But I am pleased and looking forward to seeing more.

After writing this up, I did some looking around for what others are saying.
Here’s a rundown on that:

  • Sky HDTV
    launch runs into trouble
    from the BBC covers how many are getting delays
    beyond what was expected. Our initial date was pushed back two weeks. Sky was
    very apologetic and also provided a automatic £20 credit, if I recall. I do
    find it ironic to that the BBC is sort of dinging Sky in the article only to
    later say it is showing the "selected output of broadcasters such as the BBC."
    Sky, at least, is putting out actual stuff in HD. The BBC’s waiting until the
    World Cup starts to do anything, to my understanding.
     

  • SkyHD installation: first impressions
    from David Kaspar has a rundown on
    using component inputs and notes the flicker problem I suspected would be the
    case if you use automatic. He’s also got a tip on telling if content is being
    upscaled (Sky should indicate this itself, perhaps UHD to indicate upscaled HD
    versus HD for true HD). He’s also got a nice

    explanation
    of various HD resolutions. The Times

    has
    a nice guide, too.
     

  • A few more
    thoughts about the Sky HD box
    from HDTV UK has some brief comments
    including 720p (a progressive picture, each line drawn in order) giving a
    smoother picture than 1080i (more lines, but half drawn, then the other half,
    such as lines 1, 3, 5 and so on, then lines 2, 4, 6). Others have also
    contributed comments such as getting to the HD channel being a pain (it is,
    and so is hitting green to get to the regular planner, and no, complaining
    about the annoying extra step isn’t lazy!). The site has a Sky HD
    category, so that might
    be worth watching for more updates.

Postscript: Some more reviews:

  • Sky
    HD Review
    from Lordpercy.com looks at doing the DVI to HDMI thing, plus
    Sky saying think black vertical bands on either side of a 720p picture are an
    LCD problem (David’s article above says this happens when standard def content
    is upscaled to HD).
     


  • Sky’s high-def box reviewed
    from Adam Berger at Gadgetell overs key
    details and observations on various types of content.
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{ 6 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Gazza June 19, 2006 at 8:11 am

The bit you said about the “serial RS-232 socket as on all Sky Digital boxes is there, still doing absolutely nothing after all these years” I’m sorry but if you keep upto date with sky you will know hat the Sky Gnome plugs into the RS-232 Socket just with you saying it does nothing for all these years! when it does for the past year

2 Danny Sullivan June 29, 2006 at 3:43 am

Thanks, Gazza — I stand corrected! I don’t have a Sky Gnome, though I thought about getting one for my mother-in-law. Of course, they still haven’t fixed that 4 digit radio problem on them, have they? Certainly messes up my Windows Media Centre PC, if I want to go from radio to TV. And also, I think I’ve got some Sky game controllers somewhere they gave out in a promotion that also hook up to the serial port. So I stand corrected twice!

3 rob August 11, 2006 at 11:51 pm

ask sky about the res it sends hd in
i did this and asked if it was true that they use low res and the hd box is only converting signal to a high res.so asked why then do you need hd box as its signal is low res.with this sky put the phone down on me.
so all i have to say about skyhd is sky are ripping people off as its the tv that has to be able to do the high res to see high def tv

4 Keith Davies June 18, 2009 at 12:58 pm

I have had a Sky+HD Box installed by Sky. My TV is a brand new Panasonic 42″ Plasma TV. I have had the Sky engineer back 3 times already. The problem is that on most of the channels, the Picture is out of scale, with everyone’s face on close up, very long, and everyone looking as though they are 9 feet tall. The first time they changed the box, the last time the engineer said he didn’t know how to correct the problem, that he would report the problem to his senior engineer, needles to say no one has called back. I contacted Sky again, they are sending an engineer again tomorrow, 19th June. Anyone have any idea what the problem could be.

5 Mikey June 25, 2009 at 6:15 am

Sky HD is in 1080i, according to my TV’s OSD. I think the idea of them being low res imaged somehow miraculously upscaled by the box is kind of unlikely. Note that there’s also 5.1 sound in the stream. There’s no way that’s been extrapolated from stereo!

6 Mikey June 25, 2009 at 6:19 am

..oh, and there’s no surround in HDMI…which seems silly but it’s true: You need to connect the optical out to your surround amp. There’s a little timeslip feature buried in the box software in case your lipsync is off

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