Comments on: To Speed Up The Web, How About A Univeral Tracking System? http://daggle.com/speed-web-univeral-tracking-system-1491 Danny Sullivan's Personal Blog Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:37:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Patrick Lightbody http://daggle.com/speed-web-univeral-tracking-system-1491/comment-page-1#comment-11160 Patrick Lightbody Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:21:43 +0000 http://daggle.com/?p=1491#comment-11160 Seriously - JS includes are really starting to become a problem. Take a look at TechCrunch. Their website takes 20+ seconds to load these days due to all the ads, trackers, widgets, etc. If you ever want to do an instant test of a site, which will show you the effect all those 3rd parties, my company just launched <a href="http://browsermob.com" rel="nofollow">an instant test tool</a> that will show you performance and load times in several different cities. Seriously – JS includes are really starting to become a problem. Take a look at TechCrunch. Their website takes 20+ seconds to load these days due to all the ads, trackers, widgets, etc.

If you ever want to do an instant test of a site, which will show you the effect all those 3rd parties, my company just launched an instant test tool that will show you performance and load times in several different cities.

]]> By: Mark Zip http://daggle.com/speed-web-univeral-tracking-system-1491/comment-page-1#comment-11135 Mark Zip Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:59:07 +0000 http://daggle.com/?p=1491#comment-11135 To say nothing of the <em>horrible</em> security implications of Javascript.<em>*</em> Scripting and Flash being major vectors for web nasties, increasing numbers of folks are surfing without turning them on. The numbers for the Firefox/NoScript/Flashblock combo are climbing every day. Add AdBlock Plus to that combo and sites like Daggle will never "track" them. Of course, they will still be in the "regular" web logs. In fact I consistently see large differences between logs and tracking on my sites. Given that, perhaps we should be looking at ways we can better analyse raw logs rather than using outside scripts to do it for us. <em>*</em> Speaking of John Graham-Cumming, he was a fascinating and sobering guest on <a href="http://twit.tv/sn221" title="Security Now Episode 221" rel="nofollow">"Security Now" episode 221</a> on November 5th 2009 To say nothing of the horrible security implications of Javascript.*

Scripting and Flash being major vectors for web nasties, increasing numbers of folks are surfing without turning them on. The numbers for the Firefox/NoScript/Flashblock combo are climbing every day. Add AdBlock Plus to that combo and sites like Daggle will never “track” them.

Of course, they will still be in the “regular” web logs. In fact I consistently see large differences between logs and tracking on my sites. Given that, perhaps we should be looking at ways we can better analyse raw logs rather than using outside scripts to do it for us.

* Speaking of John Graham-Cumming, he was a fascinating and sobering guest on “Security Now” episode 221 on November 5th 2009

]]> By: Hans F. Nordhaug http://daggle.com/speed-web-univeral-tracking-system-1491/comment-page-1#comment-11133 Hans F. Nordhaug Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:10:49 +0000 http://daggle.com/?p=1491#comment-11133 You are looking for <a href="jshub.org" rel="nofollow">jshub.org</a>. It's a project started by John Graham-Cumming - read more in <a href="http://www.jgc.org/blog/2009/08/slowly-coming-out-of-stealth-mode.html" rel="nofollow">his blog</a>. You are looking for jshub.org. It’s a project started by John Graham-Cumming – read more in
his blog.

]]> By: Jonathan Hochman http://daggle.com/speed-web-univeral-tracking-system-1491/comment-page-1#comment-11129 Jonathan Hochman Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:53:01 +0000 http://daggle.com/?p=1491#comment-11129 You could put all the Javascript in one place, but it would still have to do all the different tasks you "need". I don't see much potential savings there. It's not like these different programs share common code. Could Google make a premium version of Analytics that didn't have the six hour delay? Then you could get rid of the secondary analytics service. You could put all the Javascript in one place, but it would still have to do all the different tasks you “need”. I don’t see much potential savings there. It’s not like these different programs share common code.

Could Google make a premium version of Analytics that didn’t have the six hour delay? Then you could get rid of the secondary analytics service.

]]> By: youfoundjake http://daggle.com/speed-web-univeral-tracking-system-1491/comment-page-1#comment-11127 youfoundjake Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:35:05 +0000 http://daggle.com/?p=1491#comment-11127 Agreed that it's the script that causes the speed problem most of the time for me as well..that's why I tend to put all the scripts at the bottom of the page, so that the content loads faster, but with Google Adsense and other scripts that are for the most part location dependent, it does get a bit tedious.. Agreed that it’s the script that causes the speed problem most of the time for me as well..that’s why I tend to put all the scripts at the bottom of the page, so that the content loads faster, but with Google Adsense and other scripts that are for the most part location dependent, it does get a bit tedious..

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